Link

Social

Embed

Disable autoplay on embedded content?

Download

Download
Download Transcript

[A.  Review Agenda]

[00:00:05]

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IS YOUR MIC ON? THANKS.

MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE CIP.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS? ORDINANCES FOR THIRD CONSIDERATION.

ON JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE ORDINANCES ON 6610 FROM SEPTEMBER 9TH.

DID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THIS TO STAFF AT ALL OR NO? YEAH. THEY JUST SAID OKAY.

SO I THINK I HAVE TO DO IT TODAY, LIKE AT THE STUDY SESSION TO BRING IT BACK.

IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH BACK THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.

YOU'RE NOT BRINGING IT BACK.

YOU'RE NOT BRINGING IT BACK.

IT'S STARTING OVER. SO YOU'RE JUST REQUESTING THAT THEY START IT OVER AND CHANGE IT BACK? CORRECT. SO WE I GUESS WHEN I MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, IT WAS BASICALLY PER YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND PLANNING COMMISSION, AND SO I REACHED OUT TO CHRIS.

HE THOUGHT THE SAME THING. I WAS THE FIRST, HE WAS THE SECOND.

IT WAS NOT.

SO WHEN I SAID APPROVE, IT WAS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT AND I DIDN'T.

SO I GUESS I DID NOT WANT TO APPROVE THAT, AND SO DICK SAID, WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU GUYS TAKE IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN BACK TO US.

RIGHT. SO WE'LL START THE PROCESS OVER.

IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO THE NOVEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO GO TO DECEMBER.

SO THEN YOU GUYS WILL NOT SEE IT AGAIN UNTIL JANUARY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP THAT THE TIMELINE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS AND BASICALLY START THE PROCESS FROM SCRATCH.

THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YEAH, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL GET IT BACK ON AND THEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THIS IS THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS ON HERE FOR I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WAS AS I LOOK THROUGH IT, THERE'S A LOT OF ARPA FUNDS BEING USED, AND THEY HAVE TO BE USED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

YEAH, AND EVERYTHING WE'VE USED THEM FOR, I THINK HAVE BEEN GREAT PROJECTS, GREAT USES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE IF WE COULD BREAK DOWN, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR DANIELLE IF WE COULD BREAK DOWN EVERYWHERE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN USED, AND THEN HOW MUCH IS LEFT? I FEEL LIKE IT'S ABOUT GONE.

WE HAVE A WEB PAGE ON THE CITY THAT SHOWS EVERYWHERE IT'S BEEN USED.

YEP, AND THEN HOW MUCH IS LEFT? I CAN PULL THAT UP AFTER THIS SESSION KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IS LEFT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE OUT FOR BID AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BIDS BACK YET.

SO THERE MIGHT BE THEY MIGHT BE MORE EXPENSIVE.

THEY MIGHT BE LESS EXPENSIVE.

I JUST HAD SOMEBODY ASK ME.

I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE USED A LOT AND EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IT FOR HAS BEEN GOOD PROJECTS AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO USE IT.

I'M NOT QUESTIONING IT AT ALL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF SOMEBODY ASKS, I'M LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS THE EXACT STUFF SO YOU ARE GETTING. YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL COME TO US AND IT'S ALL GOT TO BE SIGNED, SEALED, DELIVERED, COMPLETED EVERYTHING BY END OF 25.

IT SHOULD BE. IT HAS TO BE COMMITTED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

HAS TO BE CONTRACTUALLY COMMITTED.

YEAH.

IT HAS TO BE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED BY THE END OF 24.

PROJECT COMPLETED AND THEN SPENT BY, LIKE, EXPENSES INCURRED AND PAID FOR BY END OF 26.

OH, 26, OKAY. SO AS LONG AS IT'S BID OUT, AS LONG AS BECAUSE I WAS GOING, WAIT A MINUTE.

WE GOT TO BUILD HOW MANY HOUSES? THE PIECE OF GROUND THAT'S BY THE HIGHWAY PATROL.

THOSE BIDS THAT THE EXTENSION OF IOWA WESTERN IS BACK, BUT THE BID TO GO TO THE OTHER PROPERTY IS NOT BACK YET.

YEAH.

YEAH. SO, LIKE BRANDON MENTIONED, THERE'S A PAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT KIND OF OUTLINES WHERE THINGS HAVE GONE.

WE DO HAVE A TRACKING SPREADSHEET THAT WE UTILIZE FOR OUR ANNUAL AUDIT FOR FEDERAL AWARDS, AND IT TRACKS IT DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. AGAIN, EVERYTHING COMES TO YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL.

EVEN ADDITIONAL COSTS, IF IT IS THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS BELOW.

THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS WILL COME TO YOU GUYS, BUT WE DO HAVE A TRACKING SHEET THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU OF WHERE EVERYTHING IS BEING ALLOCATED TO OR SPENT AT THIS TIME. WE ARE WAITING FOR A COUPLE OF BIDS TO COME IN, IN THE NOVEMBER TIME FRAME TO TRULY OBLIGATE THOSE DOLLARS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS

[00:05:04]

BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER.

YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT QUESTIONING OF IT.

IT'S ALL BEEN GOOD. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I CAN NAME 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT THINGS WE USED AND I JUST IF I COULD HAVE A LIST THAT WAY.

YEAH. IF ANYBODY DOES ASK, AND WE HAD JUST FOR YOUR EDIFICATION, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE ARPA PEOPLE AND DICK DREW UP A CONTRACT.

WE CAN ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH COURTNEY ON THE MANAWA PROJECT, AND ANYTHING LEFT OVER OR UNDER CAN FLOW THROUGH HER, AND WE'LL PLUG THAT NUMBER IN WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, AND.

OUR CURRENT SPEND IS ABOUT 12 MILLION.

WE RECEIVED JUST OVER 24 MILLION, AND WE'VE SPENT APPROXIMATELY HALF.

GOTCHA, BUT THEY CAME UP.

THEY SAID IT HAD TO BE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT VERBIAGE THEY USED, BUT IDENTIFIED BY, AND THAT'S MY WORD, NOT THEIRS.

12/31/24 AND THEN ABOUT APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THEY SAID CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED AND SO THAT CHANGED HOW WE WERE PROCEEDING, BUT, AND I JUST SHOWED ROGER, IF YOU JUST GO AND IN THE HOW YOU CAN HELP AND JUST TYPE ARPA AT THE BOTTOM, THEN IT HAS THE BREAKDOWN OF WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, WHAT PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND HOW MUCH SO, AND WHAT'S IN PROGRESS.

OTHER QUESTIONS ON ORDINANCES.

ANYTHING ON THE RESOLUTIONS? PERMITS AND CANCELLATIONS.

WE TALKED TO DICK ON FRIDAY AND ASKED HIM IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT A BUSINESS PROPOSITION WITHOUT IT BEING ON THE AGENDA, AND HE SAID, SINCE WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BUSINESS PROPOSITION THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE NORMAL TAXING WOULD BE AN INVESTMENT OF ABOUT 24 TO $25 MILLION OF CITY CAPITAL ASSETS THAT WOULD EARN THE CITY SOMEWHERE AROUND 200,000 A YEAR, AND WE THINK THAT THERE ARE THREE PRIVATE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING.

WE THINK MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAVE PAID TAXES, WE CAN DRIVE THEM OUT OF BUSINESS AND WE'D MAKE MORE MONEY, AND WE JUST KIND OF WERE WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I'M BEING AN [EXPLETIVE] BECAUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE.

OH, OKAY. I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S THE BUSINESS? AND THOSE ARE THE LEGITIMATE NUMBERS.

THAT GROUND IS WORTH, CONSERVATIVELY, 25 MILLION.

LAST YEAR WE MADE 202,000, AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE PAY TAXES AND COMPETE AGAINST US, AND WE SAW YOUR FACEBOOK POST.

I'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT TELL ME YOU'RE KNOCKING THEIR DOOR AND TELLING THEM, WHEN YOU GET ELECTED TO STATE LEGISLATURE, YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE DODGE PARK, AND SO--I NEVER SAID THAT.

A GUY UNSOLICITED TOLD ME STEVE GORMAN WAS AT MY HOUSE, AND I ASKED HIM WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO FOR ME WHEN HE GETS ELECTED.

HE SAID, I'M GOING TO SAVE DODGE PARK GOLF COURSE, AND SO THEY, YOU KNOW, BRANDON CAN TELL YOU MORE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO RAMP UP MAYBE THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BECAUSE WE THINK MAYBE WE FAILED YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT, AND WHAT THE PLAN IS AND BRANDON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE.

YEAH, I MEAN, WE GET WELL AND THAT'S A BAD THING.

I WORRY ABOUT ROGER BECAUSE I SHARED THE YEAH. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

HERE'S THE SURVEY, BUT THEN NUTTY PEOPLE WRITE STUFF AND THEN SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE I SAW IT ON ROGER SANDAU'S FACEBOOK.

I SHARED THE SO THEY WOULD TAKE THE SURVEY RIGHT.

THEY ALL GOT ON THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY TOOK THE SURVEY.

I ASSUME SOME OF THEM DID.

I HOPE CRAZY TOWN PEOPLE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME ARE FOLKS THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN TOWN.

[00:10:02]

YEAH. COUPLE TIMES A WEEK WE HEAR ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE.

YEAH. SO I MEAN, THAT'S, AND LIKE I SAY, IT'S I GET IT; PEOPLE LIKE THE GOLF COURSE.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MAINTENANCE, 20% OF THE GOLFERS ON THAT GOLF COURSE ARE FROM COUNCIL BLUFFS, 80% ARE FROM OMAHA.

YOU'RE PROBABLY THAT LAND'S WORTH, CONSERVATIVELY, 25 MILLION, AND IT GENERATES 200,000 A YEAR IN INCOME, AND BRANDON, I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL SHOW YOU TODAY, BUT WE THINK IT CAN GENERATE $10 MILLION IN INCOME.

PLUS, IF WE SELL IT, GET US 25 MILLION IN SALES REVENUE, AND SO IT'S IT WILL TRANSFORM THE CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS, WE THINK.

SORRY FOR THE UNUSUAL POSITION HERE.

THE MOUSE DIDN'T REACH THAT FAR.

I JUST I GUESS FIRST OFF, JUST WANTED TO HELP CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN ANY SORT OF PROCESS.

THE CURRENT STUDY THAT'S UNDERWAY NOW, THE CB LINKAGES STUDY IS WHAT I WOULD CALL JUST THE NEXT STEP IN A LONG COURSE OF DUE DILIGENCE FOR ALL OF US, AND THAT'S SO THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE BEST INFORMED ON, YOU KNOW, IS ARE THERE VIABLE OPTIONS HERE FOR BUS RAPID TRANSIT OR STREETCAR IN THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR? IT'S NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME ASKING ANY OF US TO MAKE A DECISION OR A COMMITMENT AS TO WHETHER EITHER OF THOSE OR NONE OF THE ABOVE ARE APPROPRIATE FOR US.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE, ANY OF US, ARE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AND THAT WE'RE ALL EDUCATED, WITHOUT BENEFIT OF STUDY, TO MAKE ANY DEFINITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR COMMITMENTS AT THIS TIME, AND WE JUST CAN'T WHERE WE'VE GONE IN THE PAST.

THIS KIND OF HAS A LONG HISTORY.

GOING BACK TO THE WEST BROADWAY CORRIDOR MASTER PLAN THAT LAID SOME OF THE LAND USE OUT, AND DESIGNATING FIRST AVENUE AS A TRANSIT CORRIDOR.

AT THE TIME THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT BUSSES.

I THINK SOME OF THAT THINKING HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME, WITH THE CITY OF OMAHA COMMITTING TO STREETCAR.

THAT KIND OF CHANGED, I GUESS THE POSSIBILITIES IN COUNCIL BLUFFS, AND THAT LATER LED TO THE TRANSIT ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS STUDY.

THAT WAS IN 2019 AND 2020 THAT LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF OPTIONS, WHETHER THAT WAS BUS RAPID TRANSIT OR STREETCAR OR NONE OF THE ABOVE KIND OF THING, AND THE RESULTING LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT, AND THEREFORE THE ASSESSED VALUE AND TAX DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE GENERATED THROUGH SUCH DEVELOPMENT, THAT GAVE US SOMETHING TO HAVE KIND OF AT THE END OF 2020.

THEN IT WAS KIND OF A HOLD ON AND WAIT SITUATION WITH THE CITY OF OMAHA, BECAUSE THEY WERE STILL IN THE COURSE OF DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO PROCEED WITH STREETCAR IN DOWNTOWN OMAHA.

WHERE THAT LED US TO WAS, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FEBRUARY OF 2021 OR FEBRUARY 2022, ACTUALLY, AND THAT'S WHEN THE GREATER OMAHA CHAMBER RELEASED THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE URBAN CORE, AND THAT INCLUDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF TOPICS, AND ONE OF THOSE TOPICS BEING A COMMITMENT TO STREETCAR IN OMAHA.

IT SHOWED SOME DASHED LINES OF EXTENSIONS NORTH AND SOUTH AND WEST AND EAST EAST INTO COUNCIL BLUFFS. MORE SPECIFICALLY, IT SHOWED A MULTIMODAL BRIDGE OVER THE MISSOURI RIVER.

BY MULTIMODAL, THEY MEAN THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO TRAVEL ACROSS WITH STREETCAR BEING ONE AND THEN PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES ON THERE, KIND OF COMPLETING A LOOP WITH THE BOB KERREY BRIDGE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD, YOU KNOW, WALK OR BIKE OVER THE BOB KERREY AND THEY COULD WALK OR BIKE OVER THIS AS WELL, OR JUST DIRECTLY.

IF YOU'RE GOING FOR RECREATION OR YOUR JOB OR ENTERTAINMENT, YOU CAN WALK OR BIKE DIRECTLY FROM COUNCIL BLUFFS STRAIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN OMAHA OLD MARKET. ALL THAT NEW PARK SPACE THAT THEY'VE GOT THERE AS WELL.

SO MOVING FORWARD, NOW THAT WE HAD HEARD THAT COMMITMENT FROM OMAHA ON

[00:15:03]

PROCEEDING WITH STREETCAR AND THEY ESTABLISHED THE OMAHA STREETCAR ASSOCIATION AND ALL THOSE THINGS WE PROCEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR NEXT STEP OF DUE DILIGENCE WHICH WE WERE ADVISED BY THE FTA AND OTHERS THAT THE WAY TO GO, IF WE WOULD PURSUE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THIS SO THAT IT'S NOT ALL OUR LOCAL TAX DOLLARS, WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH A WHAT THEY CALL A PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL LINKAGES STUDY, PEL.

IT'S ALL VERY TECHNICAL KIND OF LANGUAGE.

IT'S A VERY TECHNICAL KIND OF STUDY.

I FIND IT ENTERTAINING, BUT MOST NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD NOT.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS THIS PEL DOCUMENT, AND WHAT OUR CONSULTANTS ARE BASICALLY TASKED WITH IS WITHIN THE FEDERAL DEFINITIONS OF WHAT MAKE PROJECTS VIABLE AND CAN QUALIFY.

THEY ARE PUTTING THAT STUDY TOGETHER TO SEE IF THIS IS A COMPETITIVE PROJECT OR NOT B ECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS THESE ARE NOT THE KIND OF FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS THAT ARE GIVEN OUT BASED ON YOUR POPULATION OF YOUR LOCALITY.

THESE ARE COMPETITIVE LARGE FEDERAL TRANSIT OR TRANSPORTATION OR BRIDGE GRANTS, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

TO MAKE THESE LARGE IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN, WE ARE UP AGAINST ALL OF THE OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION YOU KNOW, GIANT PROJECTS IN CALIFORNIA OR THE NEW YORK AREA, WASHINGTON, DC, CHICAGO.

I THINK WHERE WE JUST ON THE SURFACE, WITHOUT HAVING MORE INFORMATION FROM THIS STUDY, I COULD SAY THAT ON THE SURFACE OF THINGS, WE DO LOOK VERY COMPETITIVE. FOR ONE, WE HAVE A SYSTEM TO CONNECT IN BECAUSE BY THE TIME BY THE TIME ALL OF THIS PROCESS ENDS AND ANYTHING COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN, THERE WILL ALREADY BE AN OPERATING SYSTEM IN OMAHA.

THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN IN MONTHS.

THESE THINGS FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY HAPPEN OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS TO MAKE ALL OF THESE STUDIES, DO ALL THE DESIGN WORK, APPLY FOR GRANTS, THAT SORT OF THING.

WHAT THE RESULT OF THIS STUDY WOULD POTENTIALLY PUT US IN POSITION FOR IS TO MAKE AS A NEXT STEP OF OF THAT DUE DILIGENCE. IT PUTS US IN A POSITION TO APPLY FOR THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.

THAT'S ANOTHER CONSULTANT PUTTING TOGETHER A PACKAGE OF A COMPETITIVE GRANT, AND WE'RE GOING HEAD TO HEAD WITH MANY OTHER PLACES WHERE I FEEL THAT JUST IN MY BACKGROUND OF WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS IS THAT WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION.

I WOULD SAY NOT ONLY FROM THE JUST THE NUMBERS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE WE LOOK PRETTY GOOD STATISTICALLY WHERE THE, THE LIKELY CORRIDOR THAT WE HAVE FROM DOWNTOWN COUNCIL BLUFFS TO DOWNTOWN OMAHA, WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 15 TO 18,000 PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THAT CORRIDOR.

THAT'S OVER A THIRD OF OUR EXISTING POPULATION.

IF YOU END UP DEVELOPING, AS WE OFTEN SEE THIS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, DEVELOPING WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR, WE COULD ADD A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS A MAJOR IMPACT TO OUR ASSESSED VALUE AND OUR PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE WOULD BRING IN FROM THAT, WHICH THEN IN TURN GOES TO PAY TO OPERATE SUCH TRANSIT FACILITY.

IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE GO, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GO THAT WAY YET.

SO WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO.

I THINK JUST LOOKING AT PRELIMINARY NUMBERS THAT HAVE COME BACK IN FROM THAT 2020 STUDY, FROM THAT TRANSIT ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, IT IT SHOWED AT FULL BUILD OUT AND MIND YOU, THIS TAKES PHASES.

IT'S A PHASED APPROACH. YOU GET IT OVER THE RIVER AND THEN IT'S MAYBE THREE PHASES BEFORE IT GETS TO THE HOSPITALS.

WHICH I THINK WOULD BE THE MOST IDEAL.

FULL BUILD OUT WITH 2020 NUMBERS.

IT WAS SAYING AN INCREASE OF VALUE OF $5.5 BILLION, AND THAT'S VERY LOCALIZED TO THAT CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, LET'S SAY, 2 OR 3 BLOCKS OF OF A DEFINED CORRIDOR.

IN OUR CASE, IN COUNCIL BLUFFS, WE ARE BLESSED WITH A VERY, VERY ATTRACTIVE CORRIDOR, VERY SOFT

[00:20:02]

CORRIDOR FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

AS FAR AS METROS OF A MILLION PEOPLE GO, EVERYONE LOOKS AT THIS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THEY THEY SEE IT OUR WEST BROADWAY CORRIDOR IN PARTICULAR, AND WE ARE STUDYING OTHER ALTERNATIVES, BUT IN PARTICULAR OUR WEST BROADWAY CORRIDOR.

I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE WE'VE STUDIED IT THE MOST IS PRETTY SOFT IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT RAIL CORRIDOR FOR 120, 150 YEARS.

SO IT HAD A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL USES THAT HAVE SINCE GONE AWAY FOR THE MOST PART, AND ALSO YOU HAD THE LINCOLN HIGHWAY THERE, WEST BROADWAY, WHERE IT DEVELOPED WITH AND STILL HAS MANY HIGHWAY USES.

SO YOUR CAR LOTS AND YOUR FAST FOOD PLACES AND CAR WASHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE, IT'S VERY, VERY MUCH DOMINATED BY ONE STORY BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE, YES, THOSE ARE CONTRIBUTING BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW BUT LONG TERM, AS THINGS CHANGE AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED ALREADY ALONG BROADWAY, IF YOU LOOK OVER THE LAST 40, 50 YEARS, A LOT OF THAT AREA WAS ACTUALLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG BROADWAY.

SO BROADWAY IS IN IN CONSTANT EVOLUTION, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE NEXT STEP FOR ITS EVOLUTION IS LOOKING TO SEE WHAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAKING THESE TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM MANY OTHER CITIES IS THAT ONCE THAT INVESTMENT IS IN THE GROUND, IT IS A SIGNAL TO DEVELOPERS THAT THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS A PRIORITY AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE MAKING THAT CONNECTION TO A MAJOR JOB CENTER OF DOWNTOWN MIDTOWN OMAHA, UNMC, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY IN THE MOST IDEAL SCENARIO, WE ARE ALSO CONNECTING TO OUR TWO HOSPITALS ON THE OTHER END, AND THAT GROUND AS FAR IF WE GET FEDERAL GRANTS, IT WILL REQUIRE MATCHES, AND WE THINK WE'VE GOT A PLAN ON WHERE TO GET THAT MONEY, BUT THAT GROUND QUALIFIES AS A MATCH.

CORRECT. YEAH.

EVEN EVEN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF FIRST AVENUE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE GROUND.

THE RIGHT OF WAY OF FIRST AVENUE.

IN A LOT OF WAYS, COUNCIL BLUFFS HAS LUCKED OUT IN THIS CASE THAT WE PLATTED THIS RIGHT OF WAY BACK IN THE MID 1800S.

THE RAILROAD HELD IT FOR US FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND NOW IT'S OURS AGAIN AND SOMETHING THAT WE DID LEARN FROM THE FTA WAS THAT COULD BE VIEWED AS A MATCH, KIND OF AN IN-KIND KIND OF MATCH.

WHEN WE'RE APPLYING FOR GRANTS, IT'S NOT JUST CASH.

IT'S NOT JUST YOU KNOW, GRANTS FROM THE STATE OR PHILANTHROPY OR TIF.

WE CAN INCLUDE WITHIN THAT STACK THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS THAT DOES THIS KIND OF WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, HE'S JUST HE'S JUST KIND OF JUST FLIPPING OUT OF BASICALLY THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE IN COUNCIL BLUFFS AND HE'S ALMOST STRUCK BY HOW UNIQUE IT IS FOR A METRO OF OUR SIZE TO HAVE THIS SORT OF OPPORTUNITY.

NOW THE CITY DOES OWN LAND IN SPECIFIC TO THAT BROADWAY FIRST AVENUE CORRIDOR.

WE HAVE SOLD SOME OF THOSE PARCELS OVER TIME.

WE DO HAVE RFPS OUT RIGHT NOW TO SELL MORE OF THAT GROUND.

THAT'S BRINGING ON HIGHER VALUED PROPERTIES.

AS FAR AS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING GOES, YOU'RE GOING FROM ZERO OR VERY LITTLE VALUE TO YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS IN MOST CASES, YOU KNOW, EVEN YOUR 3 OR 4 STORY APARTMENT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE RUNNING YOU KNOW, AT LEAST INTO THE, THE TWO DIGITS MILLIONS.

AS FAR AS DODGE PARK GOES, SPECIFICALLY SINCE THE MAYOR BROUGHT THAT UP EARLIER THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE GREATER OMAHA CHAMBER STRATEGIC PLAN AS ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE SLIDES TO SHOW PEOPLE IN, IN, IN SOME OF MY PRESENTATIONS, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR MAP, ALL OF THEIR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT ARE ESSENTIALLY KNOCKING DOWN INTERSTATE 680 OR 480, SORRY, AND REDEVELOPING

[00:25:08]

WHERE THE 480 OVERPASS IS TODAY, AND THE RAMPS.

SO IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, AND TALK ABOUT A LONG FEDERAL PROCESS THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO DECOMMISSION AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL.

SO REALLY, THE PRIME OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPING THIS REGION OF THE METRO THAT THEY CALL THE URBAN CORE IS THAT DODGE PARK AREA, STRATEGICALLY LOCATED RIGHT ACROSS THE RIVER FROM DOWNTOWN OMAHA, AND A LOT OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE.

THIS IS NOT THE DAY FOR ME TO MAKE THAT CASE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION.

I DID JUST WORKING WITH A BUILDING THAT WE KNOW THE THERE'S A KIND OF A U-SHAPED BUILDING THAT BROADMOOR CONSTRUCTED AT RIVER'S EDGE.

IT'S THEIR LARGER BUILDING.

OF THE ONES THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE, THEY'VE GOT OH, LET'S SEE, THEY'VE GOT 157 UNITS IN THAT ONE BUILDING AND IT'S VALUED.

THE MAYOR TOLD YOU EARLIER IT'S VALUED AT 24.2 MILLION, AND IF YOU JUST.

I CRUDELY LAID THAT OUT OVER OVER THE LAND AREA OF DODGE PARK WITHOUT LAYING OUT STREETS MYSELF, BUT FACTORING IN THAT YOU WOULD IN A MASTER PLAN KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE LAND FOR RIGHT OF WAY AND STREETS AND THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PARKING.

YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING OUT AT BROADMOOR IS KIND OF LOOKS URBAN, BUT IT'S STILL VERY SUBURBAN.

IT HAS SURFACE PARKING AND ALL OF THAT.

SO IT'S A LOW DENSITY KIND OF PRODUCT, BUT EVEN FACTORING IN DETENTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU CAN FIT 16 OF THOSE VERY COMFORTABLY WITHIN THAT LAND AREA, AND SO 16, $24.2 MILLION ASSESSED BUILDINGS IS $387.2 MILLION OF ASSESSED VALUE IN WHAT I WOULD CALL RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE.

SUBURBAN STYLE DENSITY, IN MY OPINION.

YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN MIDTOWN OR BLACKSTONE IN OMAHA.

THEY ARE FAR EXCEEDING THAT 3 OR 4 STORY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO I THINK IT'S THAT IS A CONSERVATIVE MARK.

IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 10 MILLION AND TAX DOLLARS IN AND IT WOULDN'T ALL BE OURS.

THAT INCLUDES THE SCHOOLS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY, BUT OUR TOTAL TAX ASKING WAS I THINK 59 MILLION LAST YEAR.

SO IT'S ABOUT IN JUST ON THE GOLF COURSE, WE COULD EXCEED ONE SIXTH OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE NEED TO OPERATE THE CITY IF IT'S BUILT AT A LOW DENSITY CONSERVATIVE, AND NOW IF WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THAT WAS 2500 UNITS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY LARGE AREA.

YOU KNOW, THESE THESE NUMBERS SOUND VERY LARGE TO ALL OF US, BUT IT'S A VERY LARGE LAND AREA.

IF YOU LOOK AT ANOTHER SCENARIO LIKE FROM THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS BACK IN 2020, THEY PUT 10,000 UNITS THERE.

THAT'S FOUR TIMES AS MANY AS WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU, AND THAT VALUATION AT THE TIME THAT THEY RAN THOSE NUMBERS IS ABOUT 1.5 BILLION IN ASSESSED VALUE AND 400 MILLION ANNUALLY IN IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

THIS ISN'T A PIPE DREAM.

EVERY DEVELOPER IN OMAHA HAS BEEN IN THIS BUILDING ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.

EVERY IMPORTANT DEVELOPER.

SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

IOS IS PAYING FOR THE PEL STUDY AND MAPPA SOME FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MONEY.

IOWA WEST IS PAYING FOR A PLAN FOR DODGE PARK, WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY A SEVEN FIGURE COST.

SO WE CAN MORE CLEARLY DEFINE THOSE BENEFITS, AND THEN IF WE AND IOS WANTS TO GO TO DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT ONLY NOT JUST INCLUDE LOCAL PEOPLE, BUT GET SOME BIG MAJOR DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE DONE PROJECTS

[00:30:01]

IN MINNEAPOLIS AND IN CHICAGO AND SAINT LOUIS, PLACES LIKE THAT, AND ON THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO TASK THEM WITH RUNNING A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS, YOU KNOW, RUN A SCENARIO THAT'S WAY MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN THE ONE I JUST DID FOR YOU, BUT DO AN AUTO ORIENTED SCENARIO WHERE IT'S SUBURBAN, WHAT I CALL SUBURBAN STYLE APARTMENTS WITH PARKING LOTS AND THAT SORT OF THING ALL DRIVABLE OR AN URBAN SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE THAT MULTI-MODAL BRIDGE AND STREETCAR AND YOU CAN BUILD TO HIGHER DENSITIES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CONSUMING AS MUCH LAND FOR JUST OPEN PARKING LOTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT PROCESS AND WILL INVOLVE A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS AND HAVE THAT KIND OF TO YOU HERE IN THE SPRING AS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION.

I'VE SAID A WHOLE LOT HERE, BUT SAY THAT THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT US INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES TO DO IT.

WE WILL NOT DO THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WOULD BE A BURDEN.

WE THINK WE CAN REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES SUBSTANTIALLY BY CREATING MORE DEVELOPMENT HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT? KANSAS CITY TOLD US THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD PAY 80% OF THE BRIDGE COST AND 50% OF THE TRACK COST.

WE HAVE IOWA WEST.

BRENDA'S BEEN SPEAKING TO OMAHA PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE INTERESTED, AND THEN IF WE CAN SELL THE GROUND AND I'VE HAD DEVELOPERS, THE LOWEST PRICE I GOT WAS 25 MILLION.

I TOLD SOMEBODY 25 MILLION THE OTHER DAY WHO'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, AND THEY SAID, THAT'S LOW, THAT 25 MILLION COULD GO TOWARDS OUR MATCH FOR THE STREETCAR.

CREATE THIS VALUE THAT PAYS PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT IS THE ONE RELIEF VALVE THAT ALL, ALL OUR CITIZENS ARE BEGGING FOR.

EXCEPT FOR MAYBE 2000 GOLFERS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GET AN ACCURATE NUMBER OF HOW MANY COUNCIL BLUFFS RESIDENTS GOLF.

MAINLY BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING MONEY OFF IT, AND THEY DON'T.

THEY PROBABLY WON'T RELEASE THAT INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THEY HAVE TO [INAUDIBLE] OUR CONTRACT.

YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE INCOME THAT WOULD COME IN OFF OF THIS WOULD BE A SIXTH OF OUR OPERATIONAL.

IF WE CAN GET, I THINK, EASILY, IT CAN BE NORTH OF $10 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE JUST OFF THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE WEST BROADWAY PROPERTY.

THAT'S JUST THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY.

SO IF IT'S A FIFTH, RIGHT? THEY PAY 660 JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

I THINK BROADMOOR AND WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK IT, BUT I THINK THEY PAY 660 AND THAT'S ALL IN; THAT'S COUNTY, SCHOOL DISTRICT, CITY, ON THAT ONE PROPERTY, AND BRANDON SAYS HE CAN GET 16 OF THEM ON THIS, CONSERVATIVELY.

THEY'RE NOT PACKED IN. I DID THE MATH.

MY NUMBERS ARE NOT AS SOPHISTICATED THAT'S NOT MAYBE THE BEST VISION FOR THAT GROUND, BUT I HONESTLY THINK THERE'LL BE MORE BROADMOOR'S A FOUR STORY HIGH.

IF YOU'RE AT THE RIVERFRONT, IT'S VERY CONCEIVABLE TO BE 6 OR 7 STORIES HIGH.

SO. SO WHAT DOES THAT OUTLOOK LOOK ON FOR THE YOUR AVERAGE RESIDENT OF COUNCIL BLUFFS WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY TAX? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. LIKE YEAH THAT'S I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD GO INTO THE PROPERTY TAX, BUT PART OF THE PEL WHEN IT SAYS ENVIRONMENTAL THAT'S NOT LIKE POLLUTION.

YEAH.

THE HISTORICAL, THE CULTURAL, AND WILL IT CAUSE GENTRIFICATION WHERE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN NEW APARTMENTS HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO? THAT THOSE STUDIES WILL DECIDE ALL THAT, AND IT TAKES ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

IF IT WERE IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, IT COULD SUPPLY A 16 RELIEF.

WHAT DOES THAT ALLOW US TO DO I GUESS FOR THE FOLKS AT HOME.

WHAT WOULD THAT ALLOW US TO DO? THAT'S CORRECT TO OUR LEVY, FOR EXAMPLE.

[00:35:02]

YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE ASKING FOR AS MUCH PER SE.

WOULD IT NOT HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE IN DES MOINES? THESE ARE JUST GUESSES, BALLPARK NUMBERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN VETTED.

SO ARE WE 17.85? WAIT A MINUTE. JESUS.

WHILE HE'S PULLING THAT UP THE MAYOR MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE IS BASICALLY THE HUMAN FACTOR, NOT, YOU KNOW, FROGS AND SWAMPS AND THINGS, BUT WE I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE SCORE VERY WELL ON THE NON GENTRIFICATION FACTOR OF THINGS, BECAUSE IN LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A 130 ACRE GOLF COURSE WHERE NOT A SINGLE PERSON LIVES, YOU'RE NOT DISPLACING ANYONE, AND THE CORRIDOR THE MAIN CORRIDOR THAT I'VE STUDIED.

ANYHOW, THE BROADWAY FIRST AVENUE CORRIDOR IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS BETWEEN FIRST AVENUE AND AVENUE A.

SO YOU'RE NOT DIRECTLY DISPLACING A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THERE, TOO.

THAT IS A CONCERN IN MANY OTHER CITIES, ESPECIALLY LARGE CITIES, WHERE THEY DO THESE THESE TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS, AND YOU DO SEE MASS GENTRIFICATION OF OF NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH PLACES THAT ARE BUILT OUT ALREADY.

IF IT WERE DONE TODAY IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, OUR CURRENT LEVY IS $17.85 PER THOUSAND.

THAT WOULD DROP BY $2.97 PER THOUSAND POINT FIVE.

SO ALMOST $3.

SO THAT WAS JUST A VERY LONG CONVERSATION TO TELL YOU THAT WE NEED TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE NEXT FEW, I THINK MAYBE BRING IN SOME OUTSIDE SPEAKERS.

YES. WHEN IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO VOICE? THEY JUST HAD ONE. I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE GO AND ASK QUESTIONS AND VOICE CONCERNS, AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE SPEAKING TO SAID, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

WE'RE HERE TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

SO THE WORKSHOP THAT JUST OCCURRED A FEW WEEKS AGO IN PERSON AND ONLINE, THERE IS A SURVEY TOOL OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SEE.

HERE. HERE, START.

THERE'S A SURVEY WITH A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND--DOES THAT SAY ONLY 126 PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN.

YES. AT THAT POINT.

AN INTERACTIVE MAP TO ADD FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT WENT TO IT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO VOICE CONCERNS AND THEY WERE TOLD, THAT'S NOT SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHEN? BECAUSE I THINK WE MAY NEVER DO IT.

WE MAY GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE DON'T GET APPROVED FOR FUNDING.

SO WE CAN'T DO IT.

IF THE CONSULTANTS COME UP WITH A REPORT THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, OUR GUT FEELING ON THIS LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A 20% CHANCE OF BEING FEDERALLY FUNDED.

THEN WE'RE DEAD IN THE WATER.

IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD THEN.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU I'VE BEEN ON, AS YOU SAID, KNOCKING ON DOORS, AND I'VE BEEN ON 10,000 PLUS DOORS, AND THERE'S A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ON THIS PROJECT AND ON THE STREETCAR.

MANY TIMES I BRING IT UP MYSELF, AND WHEN I DISCUSS THE, THE GOLF GOLF COURSE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO, THEY TIE IT RIGHT TO THE STREETCAR, THE GOLF COURSE, IF THEY'RE CONCERNED AND I SAY EXACTLY WHAT WAS JUST SAID HERE.

IT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

IF YOU TAKE THAT GOLF COURSE AND FLIP IT OVER THE RIVER AND LAY IT OUT INTO THAT 130 ACRES INTO OMAHA, LOOK AT THE TAXATION THAT'S IN THERE.

THIS IS WHAT I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE.

IT IS ONLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT.

NOW, THEY MAY HAVE TAKEN WHAT I'VE SAID OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I DESCRIBE IT.

I'VE BEEN TO EVERY MEETING EXCEPT FOR ONE, AND IT'S BEEN VERY EDUCATIONAL, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND WE'RE IN A PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND BRING THE QUESTIONS IN.

THEY'VE ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION THAT I'VE HAD AND COMMENT TO THIS POINT.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING.

[00:40:02]

IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS, AND I WAS AT A TAILGATE PARTY AT A BANK IN OMAHA TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEY'RE STILL GETTING THAT.

THESE PEOPLE SAID, WE DON'T NEED A STREETCAR.

NOBODY RIDES A DAMN BUS.

WELL, YES, IT'S A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE, A TRANSPORTATION PLAY, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAY, AND WE'VE BEEN TO TEN COMMUNITIES, AND I'M TELLING YOU, THERE'S NOT ONE WHERE IT'S JUST NOT AMAZING.

YOU SAW WHAT CHARLOTTE LOOKED LIKE, HOW STUFF JUST BLOSSOMS WHEN WHEN THESE STREETCARS GO IN.

KANSAS CITY TOLD US 100 MILLION A MILE.

THEY HAD TO TEAR UP THE STREET.

THEY HAD TO TEAR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP AND REPLACE IT WITH NEW.

I THINK OMAHA, IT WAS 400 MILLION TO MUD FOUR AND A QUARTER OR SOMETHING.

WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ON FIRST AVENUE.

THEY HAD TO BUY THE STREETCARS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE STREETCARS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO USE OMAHA'S.

THEY HAD TO BUILD THE MAINTENANCE SHOP.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE MAINTENANCE SHOP, AND SO, AS BRANDON SAYS, WE ARE IN AN EXCEPTIONALLY UNUSUAL POSITION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I THINK AT NO INCREASE TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT A REDUCTION TO THE TAXPAYERS.

I SEE THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THE STREETCAR, IT'S A 100 YEAR DECISION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, BECAUSE IF WE EITHER WAY WE GO ON THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACTFUL DECISION FOR 100 YEARS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE OUR TOWN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO BOOM, BUT WHEN WE'RE POSITIONED THE WAY WE ARE AGAINST A MILLION PEOPLE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT JUST WON'T.

I WENT TO THE CHAMBER OF CANDIDATE FORUM AND THIS LADY SAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE OUR TOWN A PARKING LOT FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO OMAHA FOR ENTERTAINMENT, AND I SAID, I'M SORRY YOU LOST ME ON THAT.

WELL, I'LL PARK OVER HERE AND RIDE THAT STREETCAR TO OMAHA, AND I SAID, GEEZ, I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW IT GOES DOWN, MA'AM, AND SHE JUST DIDN'T WANT IT.

EVERYTHING I SAID, SHE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

SO YOU'LL GET THOSE PEOPLE, BUT WE WANT TO GET YOU INFORMED SO THAT WHEN THEY DO SAY SOMETHING OR AS YOU SAY, HOW DO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KNOW ANSWERS? IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER, YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE ANSWER.

SO WE FEEL LIKE WE FAILED YOU IN NOT KEEPING YOU UP TO SPEED, BUT BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT THERE YET, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING QUESTIONS AND SO WE WANT TO.

YEAH, AND BRANDON AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT GOING TO KANSAS CITY OR GOING TO ANOTHER PLACE, BUT I WE WENT TO CHARLOTTE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT A GREAT CONFERENCE.

YOU AGREED ON THAT. I DIDN'T THINK THE EDUCATION THAT I GOT WAS AS BENEFICIAL AS I HOPED, AND SO THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE FOR ME, FOR SURE.

ON THE STREETCAR SOMEWHERE AND I'M BUSY.

I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN JUST TAKE OFF AND JUST GO TO KANSAS CITY WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, I'M IN SALT LAKE CITY AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

I CAN LOOK AT THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S AS STEVE SAID, IT'S AN IMPORTANT DECISION, BUT YOU CAN'T DISAGREE.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS I TOLD YOU, AND I TOLD BRANDON, TOO, THAT I WAS HOPING, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DEVELOPERS THERE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHY I CAME HERE BECAUSE OF THIS, RIGHT AT THE THING I WAS HOPING FOR, LIKE BEFORE AND AFTERS.

CORRECT, AND THAT DEVELOPER, WHETHER IT WAS JAY NODDLE OR WHOEVER, RIGHT, SAYING, I BUILT THIS HERE BECAUSE THIS WAS HERE AND THIS IS WHY, AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT THERE, AND I THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT THAT WAS FOR, EXCEPT YOU GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE, AND THERE WAS NOTHING OUTSIDE IT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, BUT I DIDN'T SEE LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES WAS THE STREET CAR THERE? WAS SOME OF THIS ALREADY BUILT AND THEY AND SOME OF US HAD BEEN TO KANSAS CITY.

KANSAS CITY SAID SINCE 2017 WHEN THEY OPENED UP, THEY HAVE ADDED WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF THE STREETCAR, 48,000 PEOPLE.

THAT AREA WAS A SHOOTING GALLERY.

STILL IS IN SOME CASES.

WE WERE DOWN THERE AND SOMEBODY DROVE BY AND SHOT THEIR GUNS, BUT IT'S FINE DINING.

IT'S CONDO CONDOS, IT'S APARTMENTS.

IT'S REFURBISHED BUILDINGS.

IT TRULY IS AMAZING TO ME.

NORTH CAROLINA, THERE WAS LIKE 21 CITIES THERE FOR THAT CONFERENCE, AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CITIES THAT WERE THERE WERE EXPANDING THEIR LINES, AND I THINK 1 OR 2 THAT WEREN'T EXPANDING HAD EXPANDED THE YEARS BEFORE, AND

[00:45:08]

THEN IN OKLAHOMA CITY, WHICH IS A LOT LIKE COUNCIL BLUFFS, THE OIL COMPANIES PULLED OUT OF THERE AND IT WAS A DEPRESSED ECONOMY.

THEY PUT A LOOP IN.

IT TOOK THEM YEARS TO GET IT IN THERE, BUT AFTER THEY PUT IT IN, THEY EXPANDED IT OUT INTO THE REST OF THE CITY, AND THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT ALL ALONG THAT THING, AND SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING IS TRUE.

THEY DEVELOP ALONG THESE LINES, YOU KNOW, AND NOW WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF THAT'S WHETHER A DIRECTION OR NOT THAT WE GO IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I PERSONALLY SEE IT AS A AS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD.

CAN DO IT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE'S DOLLARS.

YEAH, SO I'LL BE WORKING.

I'VE ALREADY STARTED TO CONTACT A FEW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GIVE SOME PRESENTATIONS DURING STUDY SESSION ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS THAT ARE EITHER DIRECTLY OR TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO STREETCAR AND DEVELOPMENT OR FEDERAL TRANSIT DOLLARS EVEN, AND EVERYONE'S BEEN REAL EXCITED AND WILLING TO COME IN PARTLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IN COUNCIL BLUFFS IN THE GOOD OF THE ENTIRE METRO, AND WE'LL KEEP IT SHORT.

HE SMILES. MAYBE NOT SO SHORT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IF MAYOR STOTHERT COMES IN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG HER NORMAL PRESENTATION RUNS, SO.

YEAH, I GUESS LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE HAD FOR US.

I'M NOT.

WELL I'M NOT. THAT CONFERENCE WAS NOT THE DEVELOPER'S CONFERENCE IT WAS A STREETCAR, YEAH STREETCAR COALITION.

YEAH. SO IT'S THE BEST WE COULD PUT TOGETHER WITH WHO'S OUT THERE.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOT THE RIGHT MAYBE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT BROADLY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT, NOT SPECIFIC TO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WENT, BECAUSE I TOLD YOU, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, BUT AT THIS POINT, I JUST I'M IT'S I GUESS I NEED A LOT MORE, AS I'VE TOLD YOU.

OKAY, GO GET IT.

YEAH. THANKS FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SEE YOU AT SEVEN.

[2.  CALL TO ORDER]

PLEASE STAND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. SHOW ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[3.  CONSENT AGENDA]

SO MOVED. SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO ANY OF THESE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOUR COMMENTS MUST NOT BE ARGUMENTATIVE, REPETITIVE OR CUMULATIVE.

THE TIME RESTRICTIONS ARE TEN MINUTES FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, FIVE MINUTES FOR ALL OTHER ITEMS. NO ONE OTHER THAN THE PERSON ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT THE PODIUM SHALL SPEAK OR INTERRUPT THE MEETING.

NOW, TIME PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN REGARDS TO RESOLUTION 24-290 IS PROOF OF PUBLICATION ON FILE.

[A.  Resolution 24-290]

YES IT IS. ANY WRITTEN PROTESTS RECEIVED? NONE RECEIVED. RESOLUTION 24-290, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PLAN SPECIFICATION.

FORM OF CONTRACT COST ESTIMATE FOR THE COUNCIL BLUFFS PUBLIC LIBRARY'S ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER.

SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. NOW IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN REGARDS TO RESOLUTION 24-291, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE

[B.  Resolution 24-291]

KINGSVILLE SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION.

THIS IS A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT 24-21E.

IS THERE PROOF OF PUBLICATION ON FILE? YES IT IS. ANY WRITTEN PROTESTS RECEIVED? NONE RECEIVED. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER? IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL? MOTION. SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO EXPAND OUT THE SEWER SYSTEM, AND WE HAVE THE ARPA FUNDS THAT NEED TO BE

[00:50:09]

COMMITTED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND SO THE PUBLIC WILL PROBABLY SEE SOME MORE OF THESE PROJECTS COMING THROUGH, AND JUST A GREAT WAY TO USE THE FUNDS TO HELP GROW OUR CITY.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. NOW IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN REGARDS TO RESOLUTIONS 24-2 92 AND 24-293.

[C.  Resolutions 24-292 & 24-293]

RESOLUTION 24-292 IS TO DISPOSE OF CITY PROPERTY, FORMERLY ADDRESS AT 1612 SEVENTH AVENUE, AND RESOLUTION 24-293 IS DISPOSE OF CITY PROPERTY FORMERLY ADDRESSED AS 1614 SEVENTH AVENUE.

IS PROOF OF PUBLICATION ON FILE? YES, IT IS. WRITTEN PROTESTS RECEIVED? NONE RECEIVED. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MADAM CLERK.

[A.  Ordinance 6613]

ORDINANCE 6613.

AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP AS ADOPTED BY REFERENCE IN SECTION 15.27.020 OF THE 2020 MUNICIPAL CODE OF COUNCIL BLUFFS BY REZONING PROPERTY LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS TEN THROUGH 15 LOCKWOOD PLACE AND LYING NORTHEAST OF HARRY LANGDON BOULEVARD BOULEVARD AND NORTHWEST OF I-80, ALONG WITH THE VACATED GARFIELD AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY ADJACENT AND LOT G SUBDIVISION OF LOT THREE SUBDIVISION LYING SOUTH OF ABANDONED RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY AND NORTH OF I-80, ALL IN THE CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO I-2 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS SET FORTH AND DEFINED IN CHAPTER 15.21.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ORDINANCE 6614.

[B.  Ordinance 6614]

ORDINANCE DESIGNATING THE FIRST AVENUE AND 17TH STREET SUBAREA OF THE COUNCIL BLUFFS CONSOLIDATED HERBAL URBAN REVITALIZATION AREA FOR THE CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-294 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF COMPASS UTILITY, LLC FOR SOUTH 23RD STREET REHAB PHASE ONE

[A.  Resolution 24-294]

PROJECT. MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? THIS IS THE SANITARY SEWER PROJECT BETWEEN 20TH STREET AND 26TH STREET.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO WORK DOWN THERE ON OUR SEWER SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-295, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AN IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FEDERAL AID AGREEMENT

[B.  Resolution 24-295]

NUMBER 2-24-STPU-022 FOR THE WEST GRAHAM RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.

BELIEVE ME. I DRIVE THIS STREET EVERY DAY AND IT'S BAD SHAPE.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-296 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIDWEST DCM FOR THE COUNCIL BLUFFS RECYCLING CENTER.

[C.  Resolution 24-296]

PAVING AND SCALE FOUNDATION REMOVAL.

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

RESOLUTION 24-297 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT AND AWARD A CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF

[D.  Resolution 24-297]

$493,274 TO UNITED UTILITIES AND EXCAVATION, LLC FOR THE RECREATION COMPLEX.

FACILITY MAINTENANCE. YARD UPGRADE.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-298 A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT MULTIPLE PARCELS OF PROPERTY DONATED BY LANNETTE FLOOD, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS STATED IN THIS

[E.  Resolution 24-298]

RESOLUTION. CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? SHE HAD QUITE A FEW PARCELS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND IT'S JUST NICE OF HER TO DONATE.

[00:55:05]

A FORMER MAYOR, [INAUDIBLE] HAD, AND THEN SHE INHERITED THEM.

YEAH. SO IT WAS INTERESTING LOOKING AT THE MAP WHERE THEY ALL WERE AND HOW THEY KIND OF JUST WERE SCATTERED EVERYWHERE.

RANDOM RANDOM PARCELS.

NON-BUILDABLE LITTLE PIECES.

YEP. SUPER RANDOM.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

[F.  Resolution 24-299]

RESOLUTION 24-299.

A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH VEENSTRA AND KIMM, INC FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE I-80 PUMP STATION EMERGENCY GENERATOR. MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-300.

[G.  Resolution 24-300]

A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE USE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS FOR THE EAST MANAWA GRADING PROJECT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-301 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO SUBMIT AN US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY

[H.  Resolution 24-301]

BROWNFIELD CLEANUP GRANT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? THIS TIES INTO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE DID ON THE LAST MEETING WHERE THE CITY TOOK SOMEWHAT OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THE GRANT, AND IF WE DON'T, THEN IT'LL REVERT BACK TO THE OWNER.

CORRECT. YEP.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 24-302, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A CONSENT TO COLLATERAL ASSIGNMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

[I.  Resolution 24-302]

FROM UNION AT BLUFFS RUN LP TO MERCHANTS CAPITAL CORP..

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS AND CANCELLATIONS 7A ONE AND TWO AND 7B.

[A.  Liquor Licenses]

[B.  Special Event Application]

MOTION TO APPROVE 7A ONE AND TWO AND 7B.

SECOND. DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MADAM CLERK, ANY OTHER BUSINESS? NONE THAT I'VE RECEIVED.

ANY CITIZENS REQUESTING TO BE HEARD.

[9.  CITIZENS REQUEST TO BE HEARD]

GENEVIEVE PITZER, 2912 AVENUE D.

I'M BACK AGAIN TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO TO GET THE SOLICITATION ORDINANCE BACK ON THE AGENDA.

I DON'T THINK SO, BECAUSE THE LIKE THREE TIMES AGO THAT I WAS HERE, SEVERAL OF YOU SAID THAT IT NEEDED TO BE WORKED ON BECAUSE THERE WERE THINGS IN IT THAT WEREN'T CORRECT AND IT'S NOTHING'S STILL BEING DONE WITH IT.

I THINK PART OF IT, IT'S GOT TABLED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER THINGS COME DOWN THAT HAVE KIND OF TAKEN KIND OF CAME TO THE FRONT, BUT I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SHOOT ME AN EMAIL AND I'LL LOOK INTO IT.

A BIG THING RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH, TOO, IS AND IT HURTS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE YOU AND YOURS IS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING AROUND AND KNOCKING ON DOORS AND SCAMMING. I HAD SOMEONE ACTUALLY, TONIGHT I SET UP A BLIND CALL AND THEN THEY JUST SHOW O R NOT A BLIND CALL, IT WAS I GOT A VOICEMAIL SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO SHOW UP AT MY PROPERTY FOR WATER TEST, AND THEY SHOWED UP TONIGHT.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF LEERY OF RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S STILL ON THE RADAR AND I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF US THAT WILL PLAN ON LOOKING AT IT.

SO WILL YOU SHOOT ME AN EMAIL, THOUGH, JUST ON THE CITY WEBSITE? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF BAD ACTORS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND, LIKE, IT'S CRAZY THAT YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT, AND IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ME TONIGHT, SO.

WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS THAT IT AFFECTED US AND WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT FOLLOW THE RULES AND COME AND REGISTER LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO.

SO IT DIDN'T AFFECT THE ONES THAT DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

THEY JUST KEEP DOING IT.

SO OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? ANYONE FROM THE COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE.

STAY OFF YOUR PHONES WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND.

DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT.

YIELD TO ALL THE PEDESTRIANS AND THEN ENCOURAGE YOUR KIDS TO GO OUT.

[01:00:04]

BE RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIBLE AND TRICK OR TREAT THE RIGHT WAY SO WE CAN HAVE A SAFE, FUN, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FESTIVITIES AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

SO GET YOUR KIDS OUT THERE AND ENJOY THE TRUNK OR TREATS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO, AND THEN I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WE'RE ON.

WE'RE FIRST AND THIRD AGAIN IN NOVEMBER, NOT SECOND AND FOURTH.

SO 4TH AND THE 18TH.

SOME OF THOSE LITTLE KIDS SHOULD SHARE SOME OF THE CANDY WITH THEIR GRANDPARENTS.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

HAVE A GREAT WEEK.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.