Sep 22, 2025 City Council

[00:00:06]

ITEM A ON THE AGENDA WAS SCRATCHED. AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EPA BROWNFIELDS GRANT, RIGHT.

WRAP UPS. OKAY. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO GRANTS OPEN RIGHT NOW.

AND THIS IS JUST REALLY A CLOSEOUT THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW WE PERFORMED AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS ACTUALLY. SO THE FIRST GRANT WAS OUR ASSESSMENT GRANT, WHICH IS DESIGNED SO THAT WE CAN GO IN AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT PROPERTIES TO IDENTIFY IF THEY HAVE A LIKE IF WE THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM OR THE COMMUNITY IS AND UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S JUST A PERCEIVED CONTAMINATION OR IF THERE'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THERE THAT THE LANDOWNER NEEDS TO MITIGATE BEFORE THEY WOULD WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT WAS A $300,000 GRANT. IT ACTUALLY STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

WE RECEIVED TWO EXTENSIONS ON THAT, SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO CLOSE THAT OUT, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT PROBABLY 60 TO 90 DAYS.

WE MAY ASK FOR AN EXTENSION ON THAT FOR THE NEXT GRANT THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT THROUGH THAT PROJECT, WE DID 11 PHASE ONES FOR PHASE TWO.

AND TWO SITE SPECIFIC CLEANUP PLANS WERE COMPLETED ON THAT.

THAT'S A LITTLE BELOW THAN WHAT WE COMMITTED TO WITH THE CITY, BUT SOME OF THOSE WERE A LITTLE WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THE CLEANUP STUFF IN THERE THAT WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED THAT SPECIFICALLY WENT TO THE BATTERY FACTORY IN OUR ROAD AND SITE THAT WE'VE BEEN ASSESSING.

SO OVERALL, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 95% OF THAT GRANT.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPROGRAM SOME OF THAT MONEY TO THE BATTERY FACTORY SITE, THAT WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE TESTING ON.

BUT NOT SURE IF THE EPA IS GOING TO APPROVE THAT, BUT WE SPENT ALMOST ALL OF OUR GRANT ON THAT ONE.

ON THE BROWNFIELDS FOR THE CLEANUP GRANT, SPECIFICALLY THE OLD RELIANCE BATTERY FACTORY AT 8TH AND 22ND AVENUE.

WE RECEIVED 500,000 FROM THE STATE OF IOWA OR FROM THE EPA TO DO CLEANUP, AND WE MATCHED THAT WITH $100,000 OF OUR CDBG FUNDS IN ORDER TO GET THAT CLEANED UP.

THROUGH THAT, WE ACTUALLY CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THAT IF WE CAN'T GET SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TESTING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

WE I'M GOING TO GET THESE NUMBERS RIGHT FOR DESSIE.

WE CLEANED UP 660,000YD³ OF LEAD AND ARSENIC CONTAMINATED SOIL, AND AN ADDITIONAL 1900 CUBIC YARDS HAD TO BE EXCAVATED AND BACKFILLED THAN WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED. SO THE CONTAMINATION WAS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN WE EXPECTED, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THAT CLEANED UP LESS A COUPLE SPOTS.

SO AS PART OF OUR ENROLLMENT INTO THE LAND RECYCLING PROGRAM, WE HAD TO GO OUT AND DO ABOUT 60, EXCUSE ME, 80 SAMPLES THROUGHOUT THAT AREA. TO GET SOME BASELINES FOR WHERE ARSENIC IS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS SOME OF THE LEAD LEVELS IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE WERE PRETTY CONSISTENT, EXCEPT FOR THERE'S THREE SPOTS LEFT SPECIFICALLY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE, AND ONE ON A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THAT WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LEVELS ARE LEFT.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL TESTING WITH THAT. THE STUFF IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WE CAN TEST, BUT THE ONE ON THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, WE JUST NEED TO TALK TO THAT LANDOWNER AND SEE WHAT LEVEL THEY WOULD LIKE US TO CHOOSE TO.

IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT US TO DO THAT TESTING, WE WON'T. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT PROGRAM.

WE HAD TO DO SEVERAL REPORTS, INCLUDING AN ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS, SOME QUALITY ASSURANCE PLANNING AS WELL AS, LIKE I SAID, ENROLL IN THE LAND RECYCLING PROGRAM AND THEN OUR ACTION REPORT TO CLOSE EVERYTHING OUT.

SO WE ARE COMPLETELY DONE WITH ALL OF THIS. UNLESS THOSE FEW SPOTS THAT WE HAVE LEFT THAT GRANT IS SUPPOSED TO CLOSE AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

ALSO, IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT ADDITIONAL TESTING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WE MAY ASK FOR A SHORT EXTENSION JUST TO GET THAT CLEARED UP AS WELL.

BUT OVERALL BOTH PROJECTS ARE DONE. AND ACTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, THE BROWNFIELD CLEANUP FOR THE BATTERY FACTORIES THAT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

FOR THE BATTERY FACTORY ONE, WE CLEANED THAT ONE TO COMMERCIAL STANDARD, RIGHT? RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL. AWESOME. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS ALWAYS OUR INTENT. WE WANTED TO GET HOUSES BACK INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. REVIEW THE AGENDA. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? QUESTIONS ON. POSTPONE ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS. WHICH WORKS OUT OKAY. AND THEN. SO, QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTIONS.

SURE. 5.A. I WENT IN TO THE

[00:05:02]

THIS MASTER DOCUMENT JUST REFERENCES THE FORMAT OF THOSE EXHIBITS A, B, AND C.

OKAY. SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY AFTER THE MASTERS APPROVED, WE THEN NEGOTIATE THE SCOPE AND THE FEE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH TASK.

AND THAT'S WHEN THOSE DOCUMENTS WILL BE COMPLETED. GOT YOU.

OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE WE'RE JUST NOT TO THAT STEP YET.

SO AT THE NEXT LEVEL THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETED. SO WE JUST PUT THEM IN THERE AS THIS IS BASICALLY THE FORMAT OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.

OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTIONS.

YEAH. COURTNEY, CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 5.F? JUST KIND OF. THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT JUST TALK ABOUT WHY, I KNOW WE'RE COMBINING THINGS, BUT TALK ABOUT KIND OF THE OVERALL ARCHING THING AND THEN KIND OF OUR PLAN, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE PROBABLY REACHED OUT TO ALL OF US ON EMAIL.

WHAT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT UP WAS THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PORTION, HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S FAIRLY LARGE SUM OF MONEY.

SO JUST SOME CLARIFICATION. SURE. SO THIS WILL BE AN UPDATE TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2014. SO WE'RE ABOUT FIVE YEARS OUT FROM OUR 2030 SUNSETTING.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME HERE AND GETTING THIS IN PLACE.

FROM THE LAST YEAR'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE BUDGETED THE $600,000, SO THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, WE BUDGETED FOR THAT LAST YEAR. WITH THE INTENT OF UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN HAVING A FOCUS AREA OF OUR DOWNTOWN PLAN, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT, SO IT'S TIME TO GET THAT REVISITED AND MAKE SURE WE'RE IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF THOSE GOALS ALREADY.

SO FINDING OUT NEW GOALS FOR OUR DOWNTOWN SPECIFICALLY.

WE HAVE THIS PRETTY OPEN. WE'RE ASKING FOR AT LEAST THREE, FOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS, I BELIEVE.

SO ONCE WE GET A CONSULTANT ON THE, THE IDEA IS THAT WE'LL, WE'VE PUT OUT THE RFP WITH OUR WANTS, AND THEN THE PROPOSALS WILL COME IN WITH, HERE'S HOW WE CAN MEET THAT.

WITHIN YOUR BUDGET OF $600,000, WE'RE CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DECENT AND PRETTY ROBUST COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION. BUT ONCE WE GET INTO THAT, WE'LL HAVE SOME FOCUS GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR.

THIS IS A PROCESS WE GO THROUGH EVERY 18 YEARS OR SO, AND I THOUGHT IT SOMEWHAT IRONIC THAT THE GUY WHO BROUGHT IT UP.

I GET IT WHEN HE WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN THE LATE 80S.

IT WASN'T 600,000 FOR A COST, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT COST TODAY.

THE LAST ONE, MY RECOLLECTION WAS IT WAS 500 AND SOME THOUSAND.

SO I'M KIND OF SHOCKED 600, IS PROBABLY RELATIVELY CHEAP FOR.

YEAH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN DO IT FOR THAT AMOUNT.

AND IT'S THE OLD ADAGE IF IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU'RE PLANNING FOR FAILURE.

AND SO IT'S MAKES GOOD SENSE TO PLAN. SAME GUY THAT'S COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

EVERY EMAIL HE EVER SENT ME SAID IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE 1993 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO HE QUOTES THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A LOT. AND NOW TO SAY THAT WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY IS SOMEWHAT IRONIC TO ME.

BUT THE COMMUNITY DOES PARTICIPATE GREATLY IN THE PROCESS AND.

WILL THERE BE AN OPEN FORUM TO THAT PART? [INAUDIBLE] I THINK.

OKAY. YEAH. WELL, ONCE WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT ON, WE'LL WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT SPECIFIC PLANNING BECAUSE THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE THERE'LL BE COMMUNITY EVENTS, THERE'LL BE FOCUS GROUPS WITH CITY STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SURE.

THERE MIGHT BE A FEW EXTRA THINGS THAT WE TRY TO WORK IN, BUT WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY PLAN THAT EVERYONE HAS THAT INPUT ON.

OKAY. THANKS. AND TO YOUR POINT, MATT, THAT GENTLEMAN, I THINK REACHED OUT TO AT LEAST TO ME, I THINK HE REFERENCED IN HIS COMMUNICATION TO ME THAT HE WAS REACHING OUT TO EVERYBODY, THAT HE SENT US IN THE CITY AND EMAIL THIS SPRING.

AND NOBODY HAD RESPONDED TO HIS INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS.

WE HADN'T EVEN PROCESSED IT IN THE SPRING. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW HE COULD HAVE DONE THAT, BUT THE, I GOT AN EMAIL TOO, SAYING THE SAME THING. HE'D REACHED OUT TO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL, AND AT THIS POINT,

[00:10:01]

HE'LL HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE INPUT. BUT THE FACT THAT HE REACHED OUT IN THE SPRING LOGISTICALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, BECAUSE WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT TODAY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WOULD BE REACHING OUT IN THE SPRING, BUT MAYBE HE HAS SOME BETTER EXPLANATION THAN THAT.

BUT OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTIONS? QUESTIONS ON THE PERMITS OR CANCELLATIONS? CAN WE GENERALLY GIVE A LIQUOR LICENSE TO AN AUTOMOTIVE? EVERY YEAR. IT'S A GAS STATION. GAS STATION. CONVENIENCE.

OH, YEAH. YOU GO IN AND GET. THE NAME STUFF. YEAH.

THE NOISE VARIANCE. ARE WE GOOD TILL 1 A.M.? WE'VE NOT.

I DON'T RECALL US GOING. WE'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO MIDNIGHT.

OKAY. I THINK YEAH. ONE. I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED BY ONE.

WE CAN CHANGE IT TO MIDNIGHT OR WHATEVER TIME YOU WANT.

SO. OKAY. WE'LL JUST GIVE HIM APPROVAL FOR WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE.

YEAH. ATHERTON HAS A CONVENIENCE STORE. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I CAN GET ON MY CB CHAT. I KNOW, 05:00.

AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE DONE BEFORE THE HAIL COMES IN TONIGHT, SO.

I KNOW. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU AT 7.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

[1) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

WELCOME. I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. SHOW ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ROGER SANDAU,

[2) CALL TO ORDER]

[3) CONSENT AGENDA]

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. TONIGHT WE HAD THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE HAD A POSTING PROBLEM.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THOSE TILL OCTOBER 6TH.

DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT OR. MOTION TO CONTINUE.

ITEM 4 A, B, C AND O. JUST THOSE TWO. OCTOBER 6TH.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MADAM CLERK. RESOLUTION 25-241, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH JEO

[5.A) Resolution 25-241 Resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreement with JEO Consulting Group, Inc. for engineering services in connection with the Valley View Intersection Improvements Project.  Project # PW26-08]

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

FRANKLIN AND GREENVIEW. AND SO I KNOW THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE RELIEVED TO SEE A LITTLE, EXCUSE ME, RELIEF THERE. IT'S VERY BUSY IN THE MORNINGS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 25-242, A RESOLUTION CREATING ONE NEW FULL TIME ELECTRICIAN/CONTROLS TECHNICIAN POSITION

[5.B) Resolution 25-242 Resolution creating one new full-time Electrician/Controls Technician position within the Public Works Department.]

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? WE NEED TO CHANGE THE TITLE CORRECT.

YES. IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE AMENDED RESOLUTION TO CHANGE THE INCORRECT JOB TITLE IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH TO ELECTRICIAN/CONTROLS TECHNICIAN. I'LL SECOND.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION IN GENERAL? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 25-243, A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF CARLEY CONSTRUCTION,

[5.C) Resolution 25-243 Resolution accepting the bid of Carley Construction., LLC for the 2600 Block Alley between West Broadway and Avenue A Sanitary Sewer Reconstruction.  Project # PW25-26]

[00:15:03]

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 25-244, A RESOLUTION GRANTING PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL OF A 74-LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON A PARCEL OF

[5.D) Resolution 25-244 Resolution granting preliminary plan approval of a 74-lot residential subdivision on a parcel of land legally described as being a portion of the NW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 and a portion of the NW 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of Section 33-75-43, to be known as “Steven Ridge Subdivision”.  Location: Undeveloped land lying north of 1375 and 1378 Chestnut Drive. SUB-25-007]

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 25-245, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO CERTIFY ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTIES TO THE POTTAWATOMIE COUNTY TREASURER

[5.E) Resolution 25-245 Resolution authorizing the City Clerk to certify assessments against properties to the Pottawattamie County Treasurer for unreimbursed costs incurred by the City for the abatement of weeds and the removal of solid waste nuisances upon properties and directing them to be collected in the same manner as a property tax.]

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 25-246, A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO SELECT A CONSULTANT OR

[5.F) Resolution 25-246 Resolution to authorize the Community Development Department Director to select a consultant or consultant team to assist with the preparation of the 2050 Council Bluffs Comprehensive Plan and Downtown Master Plan.  MIS-25-004]

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? SO IN OUR STUDY SESSION THIS AFTERNOON WE TALKED THAT WE'RE ABOUT THREE YEARS AHEAD.

AND I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT, MAYOR, THAT IF WE'RE NOT PLANNING THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING OUT ON THIS REALLY SOON.

FOR AN 18 MONTH SURVEY OR STUDY TO START AN ADDITIONAL 18 MONTHS AHEAD ON THIS.

YEAH, BUT IF WE IF WE COMPLETE IT IN 18 MONTHS, I MEAN, THAT GIVES US THE LEEWAY IF THERE'S AN ERROR OR AN ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE.

WE COMPLETE THE STUDY AT THE END OF 18 MONTHS AND WE HAD ANY SNAFUS OR ANYTHING HAPPEN OR ANY ERRORS OR ISSUES, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO RECTIFY IT OR TO FIX IT, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? AND.

OUR CURRENT PLAN EXPIRES IN 2030. IT'S 2026, BASICALLY.

18 MONTHS PUTS US IN THE MID 2028. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE VERY LAST MINUTE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS LIKE A CONSULTANT AND A TEAM TO JUST I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A VERY EARLY STEP I GUESS IN THIS.

OTHER DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. AYE. RESOLUTION 25-247, A RESOLUTION OFFICIALLY DESIGNATING THE CITY

[5.G) Resolution 25-247 Resolution officially designating the City Council meeting dates for the City of Council Bluffs during the 2026 calendar year]

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? I THINK WE CAUGHT ALL THE HOLIDAYS, RIGHT? I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING, TRIPLE CHECKED. OKAY, COOL. OTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 25-248, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A JOB TITLE CHANGE FROM IDENTIFICATION TECHNICIAN TO CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATOR I.

[5.H) Resolution 25-248 Resolution authorizing a job title change from Identification Technician to Crime Scene Investigator I              ]

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS AND CANCELLATIONS.

[6.A) Liquor Licenses1. Atherton Automotive, 2900 West Broadway2. Cracker Barrel #219, 530 30th Ave.3. Family Dollar #24414, 2801 West Broadway4. Juanitos Restaurant, 722 Creek Top5. LPL'S, 1707 Harry Langdon Blvd.6. Saint Albert Catholic Schools, 400 Gleason Ave. (5-Day License)7. Texas Roadhouse, 3231 South 24th St.]

LIQUOR LICENSES 1 THROUGH 7 FIRST. MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. AND NOW WE HAVE 6.B, THE NOISE VARIANCE REQUEST.

[6.B) Noise Variance Request]

SECOND. IS THERE A DISCUSSION? CHRIS, I THINK.

I JUST THINK TYPICALLY WE'VE KEPT A STANDARD FOR MIDNIGHT.

YEAH. EVEN ON THE BIGGER EVENTS AT OTHER VENUES.

WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YEP. STAY CONSISTENT.

I AGREE. OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL?

[00:20:08]

[8) CITIZENS REQUEST TO BE HEARD]

AND IF YOU'LL PUSH THE BUTTON ON THE MICROPHONE FIRST.

YES, IT GOES GREEN. MY NAME IS JOHN [INAUDIBLE].

I LIVE AT 139 HAPPY HOLLOW BOULEVARD. HERE IN TOWN.

I WANTED TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S ATTENTION TONIGHT.

I OWN A CONCRETE FLATWORK COMPANY HERE IN TOWN, AND I'VE BEEN RUNNING INTO SOME ISSUES WITH REPLACING OR REPAIRING RESIDENTIAL CITY SIDEWALK. A LOT OF THE CONCERN THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM MY CUSTOMERS IS SOME OF THE NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE WHEN THE CITY SIDEWALK IS UP AGAINST A CURB. THE NEW REQUIREMENT REQUIRES US TO POUR WHAT'S CALLED A THICKENED EDGE.

SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S 12IN DEEP, OR THE DEPTH OF THE STREET.

12IN WIDE, AND THEN IT FEATHERS BACK UP TO THE FOUR-INCH DEPTH OF THE SIDEWALK.

THIS ADDS A LOT OF COST TO THE RESIDENTS OF OUR TOWN.

AND A, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS ONE THAT I JUST BID TODAY.

ACTUALLY, THE GENTLEMAN HAS TO PAY ALMOST $2,000 EXTRA JUST IN CONCRETE AND LABOR.

THAT'S ME KEEPING MY END DOWN BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY MORE OFF OF THESE REQUIREMENTS.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IN THE WORKS WITH THE PSEUDONYM MANUAL THAT WE FOLLOW.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS TO THAT MANUAL, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS IN THERE THAT ARE STARTING TO ADD AND ABSORB AN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PEOPLE. THIS IS LIKE TRADITIONALLY STUFF YOU WOULD SEE IN A COMMERCIAL AREA, NOT NECESSARILY A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THERE ARE DEFINITELY OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO KIND OF HELP THE STRENGTH OF THE CONCRETE, SUCH AS REINFORCING JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE PIECES OF REBAR IN THE SIDEWALKS, NOT THIS ABSORBENT EDGE.

AND THEN A NEW THING, I THINK, THAT THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE THIS THICKENED EDGE IS ON ONE SIDE, WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE THEM INSTEAD OF FOUR FEET, WE'RE GOING FIVE FEET.

YOU HAVE MORE CONCRETE COSTS IN THESE IN THESE SITUATIONS.

AND IT'S JUST STARTING TO JUST DRIVE THE PRICE FOR PEOPLE.

SO IT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT, IS THAT THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IF IT'S AGAINST THE CURB LINE, THE STREET VIBRATES AND. NO. SO WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I ASKED WHY THIS.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A NEWER THING. IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN A THING IN COMMERCIAL AREAS.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU HAVE BIG VEHICLES AND THAT, SO I UNDERSTAND THERE.

THEY ADOPTED IT RESIDENTIALLY. ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT IF A CAR WERE TO HOP THE CURB AND ROLL ONTO THE SIDEWALK, YOU WOULD HAVE THIS THICKENED EDGE THERE. THAT'S GOOD.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY A PRACTICAL THING BECAUSE HOW OFTEN IS THIS HAPPENING THAT WE'RE CHARGING PEOPLE MORE MONEY TO, TO PUT THIS IN WHEN, LIKE I SAID, IF WE WERE TO REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, EVEN A FEW PIECES OF REINFORCING, WHETHER IT BE REBAR WIRE, YOU'RE GOING TO HELP WITH THE FLEXURAL STRENGTH OF THE CONCRETE AND THE UP AND DOWN COMPRESSION THAT THAT WOULD HAVE WAY BETTER THAN THIS THICKENED EDGE. AND THEN, SINCE WE ARE IN THE MIDWEST, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I SEE WITH THAT IS THE UP AND DOWN MOVEMENT IN THE WINTERTIME FROM THE FROST. SO WHEN WE PICK THIS CONCRETE SLAB UP AND WE DROP IT DOWN, IT'S GOING TO BREAK RIGHT ON THAT FAULT LINE, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS TIP BECAUSE THE HEAVIER PART'S GOING TO WANT TO GO DOWN FURTHER.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE FOR ENGINEERING, BUT I'VE BEEN POURING CONCRETE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF STUFF. AND THIS IS JUST ONE THING THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO THAT I KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK. IS THIS A RECENT CHANGE? IT IS. FOR SURE THIS YEAR IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN LIKE REALLY KIND OF PARTICULAR ON.

AND I THINK THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S WE'VE, AS A CITY, WE'VE ADOPTED THE STATES MANUAL, WHICH IS GOOD.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE MANUAL.

THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS. I THINK IF WE WERE TO, YOU KNOW, REMOVE THAT PART FOR OUR CITY AND WHERE WE LIVE IN THE HILLS AND SUCH, I THINK. AND AS YOU LIKELY KNOW, SUDAS REALLY PROTECTS THE CITY.

AND SO IF WE VARY FROM THE SUDAS REQUIREMENTS, THEN ATTORNEYS CAN LITIGATE AGAINST THE CITY, BECAUSE SUDAS RECOMMENDED ONE STANDARD AND WE AGREED TO A LESSER STANDARD.

AND SO THAT MAY BE A CONCERN. OKAY. I'M GOING TO HAVE JOE GIVE YOU MY CARD.

GIVE ME A HOLLER TOMORROW. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL?

[00:25:02]

AND HAVE A GOOD WEEK.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.