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GOING TODAY.

THANK YOU, JODY.

FIRST UP, WE HAVE SCOTT ZIMMERMAN AND FRIENDS HERE FROM HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE PEER CENTER TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT HEARTLAND, I SHOULDN'T SAY EVERYTHING, A LOT OF WHAT THE PEER CENTER DOES AND PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL.

SO SCOTT, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD, YOU JUST NEED TO PUSH THE MICROPHONE ONCE SO IT TURNS GREEN.

FANTASTIC.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS TO JUST GIVE.

IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME INFORMATION AND AN INVITATION TO OUR ART SHOW.

SO I EXPECT EVERYONE TO BE THERE.

I WILL BE THERE, SCOTT.

IT'S ALREADY ON MY CALENDAR.

WONDERFUL.

SO I WROTE SOMETHING.

I USUALLY WILL JUST RAMBLE AND I CAN RAMBLE AND RAMBLE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO.

STAY ON TRACK.

THANK YOU MAYOR SHUDAK FOR VISITING THE PEER CENTER AND FOR THE INVITATION TO PRESENT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE AND THE PEER CENTER DO IN THIS COMMUNITY.

BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THE PEER CENTER I WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING PERSONAL BECAUSE IT FRAMES THE PERSPECTIVE FROM WHICH MUCH OF THIS WORK WAS BUILT.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN OMAHA AND EDUCATED AT JESUIT INSTITUTIONS FOR HIGH SCHOOL, UNDERGRADUATE, AND GRADUATE SCHOOL.

WHILE I DON'T FULLY EMBRACE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, THE JESUIT PHILOSOPHY, LIVING IN SERVICE TO OTHERS, IS A VALUE I HOLD AS FUNDAMENTAL AND UNWAVERING.

I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION FOR MANY YEARS OF MY LIFE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE I NEVER FELT AS THOUGH I COULD RELATE TO MOST OTHER PEOPLE.

LIKE I DIDN'T FIT IN.

THIS WAS A FEELING I STRUGGLED WITH FROM EARLY IN MY LIFE AND PERSISTED FOR DECADES.

AFTER COLLEGE, WHILE BEGINNING GRADUATE SCHOOL, I INJURED MY KNEE AND HAD SURGERY.

I WAS PRESCRIBED OPIATES AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD EVER FELT RELIEF FROM THE PERPETUAL INTERNAL UNEASE THAT FOLLOWED ME MY ENTIRE LIFE.

GIVEN THE PRESCRIBING PRACTICES IN THE EARLY 2000S, THIS QUICKLY DEVELOPED INTO AN ADDICTION TO OXYCONTIN, AND IN TURN ESCALATED TO A HEROIN ADDICTION.

THE VERY FIRST TIME I USED HEROIN, SOMEONE I WAS WITH OVERDOSED AND DIED IN FRONT OF ME, AND YET I CONTINUED.

THAT IS THE HOLD THAT THESE SUBSTANCES CREATE.

IN JUST UNDER TWO YEARS, I LOST MY CAR, DROPPED OUT OF GRADUATE SCHOOL, BETRAYED EVERYONE WHO LOVED ME, AND LOST MY HOUSING.

FORTUNATELY, I HAD THE MEANS, THE SUPPORT, THE EDUCATION, AND THE PURPOSE TO FIND MY WAY OUT.

2026 MARKS 20 YEARS OF BEING FREE OF OPIATES.

TWO YEARS AFTER GETTING OFF OF OPIATES, I WAS HIRED BY HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE.

WHERE I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED IN THE COMMUNITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS 16 AND A HALF YEARS OR SO IN TOTAL.

IT WASN'T UNTIL YEARS LATER THAT I RECEIVED A PROPER MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS AND IT REFRAMED EVERYTHING.

I SHARE THIS BECAUSE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE IS SOMETHING WE DON'T ALWAYS RECOGNIZE IN THE MOMENT.

PEOPLE OFTEN USE SUBSTANCES TO MANAGE SYMPTOMS THEY DON'T HAVE WORDS FOR YET.

THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE IS FREQUENTLY INVISIBLE UNTIL SOMEONE HAS BEEN IN RECOVERY LONG ENOUGH AND STABLE ENOUGH TO SEE IT CLEARLY.

THIS RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN FURTHER COMPLICATED SINCE HOUSING RELATED COVID SUPPORTS EXPIRED AND THE CITY HAS SEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS RAPIDLY DISAPPEAR.

WHEN I STARTED WITH HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE IN 2008, THERE WAS ONLY ONE COMMUNITY-BASED PROGRAM, AND IN THAT TIME WE HAVE BUILT AN INCREDIBLE ARRAY OF COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES, MOST OF WHICH NOW OPERATE OUT OF THE PEER CENTER.

LIKEWISE, IN 2008, COLLABORATION AMONGST COMMUNITY PARTNERS WAS VIRTUALLY NON-EXISTENT, WHEREAS TODAY IT IS SEEN AS FUNDAMENTAL.

I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY OUR WORK HELPED BUILD THESE PARTNERSHIPS AND HAVE NOW WORKED IN OMAHA'S AND NOW HAVING WORKED IN OMAHA AS WELL I CAN SAY WHAT EXISTS

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IN COUNCIL BLUFFS IS TRULY UNIQUE.

IN OCTOBER OF 2018 WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OVER THE PEER CENTER, WHICH HAD BEEN OPERATED BY CHI FOR ROUGHLY 10 YEARS.

WE KNEW WE WANTED TO TAKE IT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

FROM THE BEGINNING OUR GOAL WAS TO MAKE IT A COLLABORATIVE ONE-STOP SPACE FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BARRIERS.

WE INVITED ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY AND INTERAGENCY PARTNERS TO PARTICIPATE.

COUNCIL BLUFFS POLICE DEPARTMENT, IOWA LEGAL AID CONNECTIONS, AREA ON AGING, HOUSING SERVICES AND DOZENS OF OTHER OTHER AGENCIES OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS.

WE WANTED TO CREATE A LIVELY, WELCOMING, AND ENERGETIC SPACE.

THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE PEER CENTER, STAFFED BY PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS AND PEER RECOVERY COACHES, PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE, OFFER GROUPS AND A NON-JUDGMENTAL PRESENCE WALKING ALONGSIDE PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN RECOVERY OF EXPERIENCE.

THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE OF RECOVERY.

SORRY.

OUR MEMBERS RANGE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE STABLY HOUSED, EMPLOYED, AND ENGAGED IN TREATMENT TO PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS WHO AREN'T READY FOR CLINICAL SERVICES.

WE ARE A LOW BARRIER.

ANYONE WITH A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS IS WELCOME.

WE KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A SPACE WHERE THEY ARE ACCEPTED WITHOUT JUDGMENT, WHERE NO ONE TELLS THEM YOU CAN'T BE HERE, THEY ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO EVENTUALLY ENGAGE IN SERVICES.

EVERY DAY WE ALSO SEE OTHER AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS MEETING WITH PEOPLE IN THE PEER CENTER.

IT IS TRULY A COMMUNITY SPACE IN THE MOST PURE WAY.

WE ALSO DO SEVERAL LARGE EVENTS EACH YEAR FOR OUR PEERS, INCLUDING A PROM, A HOLIDAY TALENT SHOW, AN ANNUAL ART SHOW, WHICH IS SCHEDULED MAY 7TH.

AND YOU HAVE ALL AGREED TO COME TOO.

WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPANDING OUR PEER SUPPORT SERVICES INTO THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE PEER SUPPORT FROM SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER LOCATIONS AND IN-HOME PEER SUPPORT SERVICES.

WE ALSO BECAME THE FIRST PEER CENTER IN IOWA TO OFFER BOTH PEER SUPPORT SERVICES, WHICH IS THE MENTAL HEALTH FOCUS, AND PEER RECOVERY COACH SERVICES, WHICH IS SUBSTANCE USE FOCUSED.

CURRENTLY, WE ALSO HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS, MYSELF AND MICHAELA, WHO ARE TRAINERS FOR THE IOWA PEER WORKFORCE COLLABORATIVE, THE ENTITY RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAINING PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS IN THE STATE OF IOWA.

ONE OF THE THREE ORIGINAL PROGRAMS OUTSIDE OF PEER SUPPORT WE OFFERED WAS INSHAPE, AND INSHAPE IS AN EVIDENCE-BASED PROGRAM OUT OF DARTMOUTH.

FOCUSED ON PHYSICAL HEALTH AND COMMUNITY INTEGRATION.

PARTICIPANTS WORK ONE TO TWO TIMES A WEEK WITH A PERSONAL HEALTH MENTOR TOWARDS GOALS THEY SET FOR THEMSELVES WITH COMMUNITY INTEGRATION, MOST COMMONLY THROUGH THE YMCA AS A CENTRAL COMPONENT.

THIS PROGRAM MATTERS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PHYSICAL HEALTH AND MENTAL WELL-BEING, BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE LIVING WITH SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSES DIE ON AVERAGE 20 TO 30 YEARS YOUNGER THAN THOSE WITHOUT ONE.

THIS IS THE ONLY INSHAPE PROGRAM IN THE STATE OF IOWA AND WE WERE RECENTLY RECOGNIZED BY THE MENTAL HEALTH CENTER OF GREATER MANCHESTER WITH THE NATIONAL INSHAPE PROGRAM INNOVATION AWARD.

THE THIRD PROGRAM WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH IS CALLED INTENSIVE PSYCHIATRIC REHAB, ALSO AN EVIDENCE-BASED MODEL OUT OF BOSTON UNIVERSITY.

THIS IS A LONG-TERM SKILL BUILDING AND GOAL SETTING PROGRAM WHERE PARTICIPANTS IDENTIFY PERSONAL GOALS RELATED TO HOUSING, EDUCATION, SOCIALIZATION, AND EMPLOYMENT, AND THEN WORK THROUGH IDENTIFYING, ACHIEVING, AND MAINTAINING THOSE GOALS OVER TWO YEARS.

THIS HAPPENS THROUGH A COMBINATION OF GROUP WORK AND INDIVIDUAL SESSIONS.

WITH AN IPR TRAINED PRACTITIONER TOTALING ANYWHERE BETWEEN FOUR TO TEN HOURS A WEEK.

MOST OF THIS TAKES PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEER CENTER HAS ONE OF THE LARGEST IPR PROGRAMS IN THE STATE.

IN 2019 WE LAUNCHED OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROGRAM AND IT IS ONE OF THE MOST FLEXIBLE COMMUNITY-BASED CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS AVAILABLE.

WE WORK WITH PEOPLE ON VIRTUALLY ANY GOAL THEY

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IDENTIFY, RANGING FROM INDEPENDENT LIVING, SKILL BUILDING, HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT, SYMPTOM MANAGEMENT, CONNECTION TO OTHER SERVICES, AND MORE.

WE ALSO NOW CURRENTLY HAVE A THERAPIST ON SITE.

PEER CENTER.

SHE IS FULLY LICENSED AND PRIMARILY DOES BEHAVIORAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS, WHICH WASN'T THE PLAN, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE DOORS WHO NEED THEM.

SO SHE ALSO DOES A LOT OF CRISIS INTERVENTION WORK AND RUNS SOME GROUPS.

SHE MAINTAINS CURRENTLY A CASELOAD OF ABOUT EIGHT TO TEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT YOU BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN TRADITIONAL OUTPATIENT THERAPY.

NOW I'M GOING TO START SAYING A BUNCH OF LETTERS AND IT CAN GET CONFUSING SO I'M JUST GOING TO NOT DELVE INTO IT TOO MUCH BUT IN 2020 WE WERE AWARDED A CCBHC PREPARATION GRANT.

CCBHC IS CERTIFIED COMMUNITY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICS AND OUR EVIDENCE-BASED SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL DESIGNED FOR LOW BARRIER EQUITABLE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE.

WE CHOSE TO BASE OUR CCBHC OUT OF THE PEER CENTER.

ONE OF THE KEY ADVANTAGES OF CCBHC FUNDING IS THAT IT SUPPORTS NON-BILLABLE POSITIONS, WHICH MEANS WE CAN WORK THE TRADITIONAL BILLING MODEL, WHICH MEANS WE CAN DO WORK THAT THE TRADITIONAL BILLING MODEL SIMPLY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR.

IN 2024, WE BECAME HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE BECAME THE FIRST NATIONALLY CERTIFIED CCBHC IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY UNDER THE NEWEST SAMHSA GUIDELINES.

AND THROUGH CCBHC, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS, ONE OF WHICH IS THE NAVIGATORS.

THEY'RE GENERALLY EMBEDDED IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE ONE WHO IS AT THE PEER CENTER FOR WALK-INS.

WE'RE IN BOTH HOSPITALS.

WE'RE IN JENNY EDMONDSON ER.

WE'RE IN BOTH SHELTERS.

WE'RE IN THE MUNICIPAL HOUSING BUILDINGS.

WE DO STREET OUTREACH AT THE ENCAMPMENTS ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER PLACES.

OUR NAVIGATORS MEET WITH PEOPLE AT A POINT OF CONTACT TO HELP CONNECT THEM TO THE RIGHT PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES.

WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY IN THIS ROLE AND CURRENTLY HAVE A HOUSING NAVIGATOR AND A BENEFITS NAVIGATOR.

HISTORICALLY, WE ALSO HAD AN INTENSIVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NAVIGATOR WHO PARTNERED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PAR UNIT, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY A TRIAL RUN ON WHAT EVENTUALLY DEVELOPED INTO THE HOP TEAM.

ON THE BACK END, WE HAVE OUR CARE TEAM SPECIALISTS.

I LIKE TO SAY THAT THEY'RE THE GROUT THAT HOLDS EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THEY COORDINATE.

ACROSS ALL PARTICIPATING PROGRAMS AND PROVIDERS INCLUDING MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND SERVE AS A CONSISTENT POINT OF CONTACT FOR INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE ENROLLMENT IN CCBHC IN A CCBHC SERVICE ANOTHER BENEFIT I THINK THAT CCBHC OFFERS IS THE ADVISORY COUNCIL WERE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN AN ADVISORY COUNCIL COMPOSED OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE TO DISCUSS WHAT HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE IS DOING AND WHAT WE COULD BE DOING BETTER TO MEET THE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT ACCOUNTABILITY BUILDS DIRECTLY INTO THIS MODEL MATTERS TO US SO WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO EVER-CHANGING COMMUNITY NEEDS.

I LIKE TO THINK THAT WHAT SETS US APART, LET ME BACK UP.

I WANT TO CLOSE BY BRINGING THIS BACK TO WHERE I STARTED.

THAT JESUIT COMMITMENT TO LIVING IN SERVICE TO OTHERS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S WHAT GENUINELY SETS THE PEER CENTER APART.

WE PRACTICE RADICAL ACCEPTANCE.

PEOPLE COME THROUGH OUR DOORS AS THEY ARE.

WE DO NOT OPERATE IN A SYSTEM THAT SEPARATES THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VISIBLY STRUGGLING FROM THOSE WHO APPEAR TO HAVE IT TOGETHER.

WE DON'T FUNCTION WITHIN A RIGID HIERARCHY WHERE THE SUPERVISOR'S PERSPECTIVE IS TREATED AS INFALLIBLE.

SUPERVISORS ARE PRESENT ALONGSIDE STAFF AND CLIENTS, ENGAGED IN REAL TIME SO THAT WHEN SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING WE CAN RESPOND IMMEDIATELY, AND WITH WHATEVER IDEA IS BEST, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT COMES FROM.

SERVING PEOPLE ISN'T A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL MODEL.

EVERY PERSON WHO WALKS THROUGH OUR DOORS ARRIVES THERE BY A PATH THAT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE ELSE'S.

WE AIM TO BE FLEXIBLE, ADAPTABLE, AND RESPONSIVE, NOT

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BECAUSE WE ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT.

BUT BECAUSE WE ARE COMMITTED TO TRYING AND KEEPING THE PERSON IN FRONT OF US AT THE CENTER OF EVERY DECISION.

THAT IS WHAT THE PEER CENTER IS, AND THAT IS WHO WE ARE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR SCOTT? I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU, SCOTT.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT STRUGGLES GREATLY WITH MENTAL HEALTH, AND I HAVE SPENT SOME HOURS DOWN AT THE PEER CENTER, AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE PEER CENTER HAS PHYSICALLY CAME TO MY DAUGHTER'S HOME.

COUNSEL AND TO GIVE HER SUPPORT.

THEY'RE OUTREACHING MUCH FURTHER THAN JUST THE CENTER OR WHERE THEY'RE BASED.

THEY'RE IN THE COMMUNITY.

MY DAUGHTER'S A TOUGH ONE.

SHE GOT MAD AT THEM AND DIDN'T LET ANY OF US IN HER HOUSE FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS, BUT OVER A CAT.

I WAS TRYING TO STEAL THE CAT.

I KNOW YOU WEREN'T, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY FOR YOUR COURAGE AND FOR WHAT YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS GREATLY NEEDED.

YOU'RE HELPING A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I THINK FOUR YEARS AGO YOU CAME TO THE ART SHOW.

THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST MET.

IT'S ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SCOTT? SCOTT, I'D JUST LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU AS WELL.

IT WAS AMAZING WHEN I WAS ON A TOUR THERE TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT YOU WERE DOING AND SERVICES YOU WERE PROVIDING, ESPECIALLY IN A TEMPORARY SPACE, AND HOW CREATIVE YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE BEEN TO MAKE THAT SPACE WORK.

THEY ARE WORKING ON GETTING A MORE PERMANENT PLACE WITH THE SPACE NEEDED, AND IT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT AS STEVE SAID, IT'S A LOT.

AND SO WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY AND EVERYTHING THAT YOUR STAFF IS DOING.

AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR PERSONAL STORY WITH US TODAY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALSO, THE ART SHOWS ARE VERY GOOD.

THEY HAVE VERY GOOD ART.

GO SEE IT.

WE ALSO HAVE, WE WILL HAVE A MINI HORSE AND A TORTOISE, AN ADULT MARCHING BAND.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.

FROM 3 TO 7 P.M.

ON MAY 7TH.

3 TO 7 P.M.

DOWN AT THE CONSTABLE S.

PEIRCE CENTER, WHICH IS DOWN ON 35TH AND BROADWAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK.

I DON'T SEE ANTONIA, THOUGH.

OH, THERE YOU ARE IN THE BACK.

THANK YOU.

I WAS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE PROCLAMATION WITHOUT YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO IT IS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK.

FIND YOUR JOY.

FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS LIBRARIES FOSTER POTENTIAL AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES, CAMPUSES, AND SCHOOLS, AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES ENSURE EQUAL ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY FOR EVERYONE, AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES CONTINUOUSLY ADAPT AND EVOLVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES AND LIBRARIANS UNLOCK THE WORLD OF POSSIBILITIES THROUGH INNOVATION, STEM PROGRAMS, MARKET SPACES, UM, MAKERSPACES, JOB-SEEKING RESOURCES, AND THE JOY OF READING, AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES ARE SKILLED, TECH-SAVVY PROFESSIONALS WHO PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY TRAINING AND ACCESS TO A DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT LIKE E-BOOKS, AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES UPHOLD DEMOCRACY AND DRIVE SOCIAL CHANGE BY ENSURING EQUITABLE ACCESS TO INFORMATION FOR ALL, REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY, CREED, ABILITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTIFICATION, OR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, AND WHEREAS LIBRARIES, LIBRARIANS, LIBRARY WORKERS, AND SUPPORTS ACROSS AMERICA ARE CELEBRATING NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK, I, NOW, THEREFORE, I, JILL SHUDAK, MAYOR OF CONSTABLE S., DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 19-25 AS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK.

FIND YOUR JOY IN THE CITY OF CONSTABLE S.

IOWA, AND WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO VISIT THE LIBRARY THROUGHOUT THE WEEK TO EXPLORE AND ENJOY FASCINATING RESOURCES IT HAS TO OFFER.

WITH THE SEAL OF THE CITY, SIGN, JILL.

CATHERINE CHUDAK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO TO YOUR LIBRARY, GET YOUR LIBRARY CARD, MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO DATE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AWESOME THINGS HAPPENING.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY NEXT UP WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THE AGENDA.

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IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.

SORRY, WE'RE DOING A QUICK MIC CHANGE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL HAVE TWO MORE PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT, ONE FOR NATIONAL DRUG ENDANGERMENT CHILD AWARENESS DAY AND ONE FOR BROOK DAYS PROCLAMATION.

PUBLIC HEARINGS.

6A.

MARK AUGUSTINE? NOT IT MARK.

IT'S A GOOD WAY TO PHRASE IT.

YES.

6A IS RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PHASE 2 OF AVENUE B, WHICH WILL TAKE US ALL THE WAY TO 8TH STREET.

SO WE'D LIKE TO GET THOSE PLANS PUT OUT FOR BID.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON 6A? OKAY.

GOT RESOLUTION A AND D.

I THINK A IS TABLED.

YES.

RESOLUTION D IS FOR ACCEPTING THE BIDS FROM COMPASS UTILITY FOR THE EAST MANAWA PHASE 14 PROJECT.

YES.

OH, SORRY, THAT'S 6D.

OH, SORRY.

PERFECT.

8D.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

SO ON THAT, THEY DID COME IN UNDER THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING ANOTHER PROJECT STARTED DOWN THERE.

IT'S PHASE 14.

WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE PHASES TO GO.

AND JUST A CLARIFICATION, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR 8A IS TO KICK IT OUT AGAIN TO THE MAY 4TH.

SO BECAUSE WE SET A SPECIFIC DATE WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THAT ONE TO MAY 4TH.

FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU MARK.

6B.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING APPROVAL TO SUBMIT TO THE STATE FOR TRANSIT ASSISTANCE FUNDING.

SO FOR TRANSIT WE HAVE SEVERAL FUNDING SOURCES INCLUDING FEDERAL FUNDS AND STATE FUNDS ALONG WITH PROPERTY TAX LEVIES.

THIS ONE ANNUALLY WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT.

THE IOWA DOT DETERMINES THE FORMULA WHICH BASICALLY SPECIFIES THE FUNDING AMOUNT BUT IT IS AN ANNUAL ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE SO WE'RE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TO SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY $333,000, FY27.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT? THANK YOU, MATT.

6C, CHRIS IS UP.

6C, THIS IS A RESOLUTION FOR...

FINAL PLAT FOR A FOUR-LOT SUBDIVISION BY AJR PROPERTIES.

THIS IS FOR ANDY RAYMOND'S MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THERE OFF NORTH BROADWAY AT THE CORNER OF SYLVAN DRIVE.

ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF HIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE TRACKS INTO FOUR BUILDABLE LOTS, TWO OF WHICH WOULD BE FOR APARTMENTS AND GARAGES, AND THE OTHER TWO, WHICH ARE CLOSEST TO NORTH BROADWAY, WOULD BE FOR STORMWATER DETENTION AND FLOOD CONTROL FOR INDIAN CREEK.

I HAD SPOKE TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

BEFORE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MAYBE YOU KNOW WE SAW THIS IN PLANNING HOWEVER THIS IS A NEW PIECE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT SO I GUESS IN MY MIND I WAS STILL OKAY TO VOTE FOR TONIGHT RIGHT IF YOU'VE NOT VOTED ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE THEN YOU'RE FINE PERFECT THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR 6E.

OKAY.

OKAY, 6D, SO THIS ISN'T A RESOLUTION ORDINANCE, BUT BASICALLY JUST KIND OF A CHECK-IN.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HOLD AS IT PERTAINS TO CDBG COVID-19 MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR.

COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH MICAH HOUSE AND NEW VISIONS TO DISPERSE ABOUT $425,000 IN COVID MONEY FOR THEIR OPERATIONS.

THAT GRANT WILL CLOSE OUT AT THE END OF MAY.

WE'RE REQUIRED TO HOST A PUBLIC HEARING TO KIND OF GET COUNSEL UP TO SPEED WITH HOW WE'VE USED THE MONEY AND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR IT.

BUT THERE'S NO RESOLUTION, THERE'S NO ORDINANCE, THERE'S REALLY NO ACTION THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE.

IT'S JUST KIND OF A CHECK-IN WITH YOU.

DO WE, SO HAVE WE DONE EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS

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TO BE DONE ON? WE'VE GOT IT ALL ALLOCATED AS NEED BE AND EVERYTHING, RIGHT? YEAH, SO THE GRANT ALLOCATED $125,000 TO MICAH HOUSE.

THEY'VE SPENT JUST ABOUT ALL OF THEIRS, BUT ABOUT $20,000.

AND THEN THE REMAINING $300,000 WENT TO NEW VISIONS.

THEY'VE SPENT ALL OF THEIRS, BUT ABOUT $100,000.

BUT WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM, AND THEY FEEL CONFIDENT THEY'LL HAVE THE REST SPENT AND INVOICED TO US BY THE END OF THE DAY.

I'M GUESSING THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE COULD ONLY USE THOSE FUNDS FOR, CORRECT? YEAH, THERE SURE WERE PARAMETERS AND THINGS.

WAY BACK.

IT WAS FOR THEIR OPERATIONS.

STAFFING, WAGES, BENEFITS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

ALL RIGHT.

6E.

SO 6E IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DISPOSE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.

THERE'S TWO LOTS THAT WE OWN OFF BENTON STREET.

THE OWNERS ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE WITH A FORGIVABLE MORTGAGE.

WE'VE OWNED THOSE LOTS SINCE ABOUT 2012.

IN TURN, THEY PLAN TO CONSTRUCT AN A-FRAME HOME ON THE PROPERTY.

AND PUT IT BACK INTO PRODUCTIVE USE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO DISPOSE OF IT TO THEM.

AND THIS IS ONE I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS, IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY UNIQUE HOUSE FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT, OFF OF BENTON.

THERE'S NO HOUSES LIKE IT.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE NERVOUS WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO PUT THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING UNITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS THAT DON'T SEEM TO FIT.

AND IS IT A TINY HOUSE OR IS IT A SMALLER? YEAH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 600 SQUARE FEET, BUT IT IS A UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT LIKE WE TALKED, DOUG, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.

SO WHAT THEY PROPOSE FITS WITH WHAT WE ALLOW.

CORRECT, YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT LOT SITS UP PRETTY HIGH, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUSH IT BACK A LITTLE WAYS.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AS OBTRUSIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT COULD BE FUN AND ECLECTIC TOO.

SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

RIGHT.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THOSE QUESTIONS FOR ME WHEN I ASKED THE OTHER DAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

APPRECIATE YOU REACHING OUT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND 6F. 6F IS A RESOLUTION TO RELEASE PERMANENT PERPETUAL EASEMENTS OVER CITY-OWNED PROPERTY THAT WE INTEND TO DISPOSE OF TO LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE HAVE SOME VACATED RIGHTS-OF-WAYS AND ALLEYS THAT, AT THE TIME OF THEIR VACATION, HAD SOME EASEMENTS RESERVED OVER IT.

THIS IS JUST TO RELEASE THOSE.

THERE'S NO UTILITIES IN THERE.

WE CAN RELEASE THOSE, AND THEN AFTER THAT'S DONE, THE FINAL PLAQUE CAN MOVE FORWARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL, AND THEN WE'LL CONSOLIDATE THOSE TRACTS INTO TWO LARGE PARCELS OF LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OKAY.

DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE RESOLUTIONS? YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, 8E, THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ESSENTIALLY AUTHORIZED FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A CHECK TO TAB CONSTRUCTION FOR THE RETAINAGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF MALLARD DRIVE AND THE ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT WORK IS NOW COMPLETE.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE ON THE ROAD.

HGM DID GIVE US A CERTIFICATION LETTER INDICATING ALL WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS PER THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

SO WE'RE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE US TO RELEASE THE LAST $112,000 IN RETAINAGE BACK TO TAB.

I DROVE ON THE ROAD LAST WEEK.

IT WAS REALLY NICE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT OR NOT, BUT I DID.

IT'S GREAT.

OKAY, CONTINUING ON 8F.

SO 8F, THERE'S FOUR RESOLUTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST, AND THIS PERTAINS TO WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

SO IN PREVIOUS YEARS, THE CITY WAS NOT LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT WE COULD SUBMIT TO THE STATE FOR THESE TYPE OF TAX CREDITS.

AND FEBRUARY...

ACTUALLY, ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE LATEST ROUND OF TAX CREDITS KICKED OFF, THE STATE NOTIFIED US THAT WE CAN ONLY SUBMIT FOUR LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND THOSE HAVE TO BE VIA RESOLUTION FROM EACH PARTICIPATING MUNICIPALITY.

IN FEBRUARY, TALENT CONSTRUCTION CAME IN AND ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR SOUTH POINT PHASE 2.

WE DID ISSUE THEM THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT, AND COUNCIL DID APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION.

AT THAT TIME, WE DID NOT KNOW WE WERE LIMITED TO ONLY FOUR REQUESTS.

AND SO...

THAT LEFT US DOWN WITH ONLY THREE APPLICATIONS THAT WE NOW CAN SUPPORT.

AND SO TO BE FAIR TO THE PUBLIC, WE DID PUT A POST OUT ON OUR CITY FACEBOOK PAGE LETTING DEVELOPERS KNOW THAT, HEY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR THESE WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BY MARCH 27TH SO WE COULD MEET WITH THEM, UNDERSTAND THEIR PROJECTS IN ORDER TO PUT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION IN FAVOR OF SUPPORT.

WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO DEVELOPERS WHO HAD INDICATED THROUGH PAST CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY INTENDED TO SEEK WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ONLY HAVE THREE PROPOSALS LEFT THAT WE CAN SUPPORT.

SO IN TOTAL, WE DID ACTUALLY RECEIVE FOUR MORE.

WE RECEIVED ONE FROM GILA DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE SENIOR HOUSING THERE ON NORTH

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BROADWAY AND IVY DRIVE THAT JASON JAMES IS PROPOSING.

I BELIEVE THAT ONE'S 112 UNITS THAT HE'S PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT.

CASEY KNUDSON, THEY DID SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR THEIR TREEHOUSE PHASE TWO PROJECT.

THAT ACTUALLY DID RECEIVE WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS LAST YEAR.

THAT'S ANOTHER 86 UNITS.

WE ALSO HAVE ONE WITH LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR THEIR EAST MANAWAR PROJECT.

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT PROJECT YET, BUT YOU DID SEE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM THEM WHERE WE DID ACTUALLY SELECT THEIR FIRM AS THE PREFERRED DEVELOPER OF KIND OF THAT EASTERLY PIE-SHAPED LOT DOWN THERE IN EAST MANAWAR.

AND AS PART OF THEIR RFP, THEY DID INDICATE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SUBMIT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS FROM NEIL DRICKY AND CLINT BRUNO FOR ARBOR CREEK.

THAT'S THE 16 TOWNHOMES THERE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING OFF OF RAILROAD HIGHWAY.

SO WE AS STAFF, WE EVALUATED EACH PROPOSAL THAT CAME THROUGH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE TAX CREDIT APPLICATION CYCLE, AND WE'RE ONLY LIMITED NOW TO FOUR IN TOTAL WITH THE STATE.

WE REALLY LOOKED AT IT FROM THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT A DEVELOPER WAS PROPOSING TO CREATE, THE VALUATION OF THE PROJECT, AND REALLY JUST TRYING TO FURTHER OUR MISSION TO PROVIDE AS MUCH HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE JUST PUT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL TO SUPPORT JILLA'S PROJECT, TO SUPPORT LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT'S PROJECT, AND TO SUPPORT CASEY KNUDSON'S PROJECT.

TWO OF THOSE ACTUALLY INVOLVE CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ON THE BOOKS FOR.

WE JUST THINK THAT IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PUT FORTH FOUR APPLICATIONS THAT COMPETE WITH THE REST OF THE STATE AND OTHER DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO AFTER THE ONES THAT GIVE US THE MOST VALUATION, THE MOST UNITS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THESE ARE NOT DONE ON A FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVED BASIS WHEN THEY COME THROUGH? BUT WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM UP FRONT, AND WE SAY, HEY, THIS MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY OF GETTING THESE TAX CREDITS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

YES? NO? SO, NO.

SO THEY INDICATE THEIR SUPPORT TO US.

THIS IS KIND OF AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

BECAUSE OF THE STATE.

THE STATE KIND OF REALLY CHANGED THINGS UP ON US TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ACTUAL CYCLE KICKED OFF.

AND SO WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT KIND OF IN A PINCH.

WE JUST SAID, HEY, WE NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT THE IEDA IS LIMITING US TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS.

SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR PROJECT WITH YOU.

AND THEN WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO DEVELOPERS WHO HAD INDICATED, HEY, ON THIS PROJECT, I DO INTEND TO SEEK WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS SO THAT THEY KNEW TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO US.

SO WHEN THE STATE CHOOSES THEM OR CHOSE THEM BEFORE, DO THEY BREAK IT OUT BY MULTIFAMILY VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY AND SAY WE WANT X AMOUNT OF THIS AND X AMOUNT OF THIS? BECAUSE WE'RE BREAKING THAT UP SAYING WE JUST ARE LOOKING AT AN OVERALL NUMBER OF UNITS, WHOEVER HAS THE MOST NUMBER OF UNITS, AND THEN TAXABLE VALUE ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THE PROJECT, CORRECT? THAT'S HOW WE LOOKED AT IT, CORRECT.

IF WE ONLY HAVE FOUR APPLICATIONS TO SUBMIT, WE WANT TO PUT THE FOUR BEST THAT BRING IN THE MOST UNITS AND MOST VALUATION.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THE STATE REVIEWS THOSE, DOUG, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND ONE WAS ALREADY AWARDED.

SO WE HAD ALREADY AWARDED SPIN-OFFS, RIGHT? IT WAS TALON CONSTRUCTION.

TALON CONSTRUCTION.

BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED THEIR LETTER OF SUPPORT IN EARLY FEBRUARY BEFORE WE KNEW WE WERE LIMITED TO FOUR APPLICATIONS.

SO THAT LEFT US DOWN TO THREE.

DID WE TAKE IN SO THESE ARE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND ON THAT, PERSONALLY, YOU HAD MENTIONED THOSE THAT THING THEY MUST HAVE APPLIED HOW MANY YEARS IN A ROW AND THEY FINALLY GOT THINGS WORKED OUT WE'VE GOT SOMETHING HAPPENING NOW NOT SOUTH POINT BUT THE OTHER SPIN LOFTS YEAH THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY KEPT APPLYING AND TRYING TO GET AND WHEN THEY FINALLY DID GET IT THEN IT COULD COME TO FRUITION UM DO WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN ANY OF THESE FOUR THAT ARE HERE UM WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS I GUESS UM I MEAN, WE DID.

HOW, ON THIS ONE WITH LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT, OUR EAST MANILOW SUBDIVISION, HOW CLOSE, YOUR SUGGESTION THAT WE DO THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING, I MEAN, HOW CLOSE ARE WE INTO HAVING THAT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, LOCKED DOWN, I GUESS, AND STARTING TO TURN SHOVELS? SO AS FAR AS IT BEING SHOVEL READY, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

I MEAN, THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN STILL NEEDS TO COME THROUGH AS WELL AS THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO SELECT THEM BECAUSE WE, THE CITY, AND COUNCIL, APPROVED THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THAT LAND AND THEIR PROPOSAL INDICATED THEY WERE GOING TO SEEK WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDIT.

SO IT JUST SEEMED BY VIRTUE OF US ACCEPTING THAT PROPOSAL WHEN THEY SPELLED IT OUT THOSE TAX CREDITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER AND IT'S OUR LAND IT JUST SEEMED RIGHT FOR US TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH SUPPORTING THAT PROJECT KNOWING THAT THAT WAS IN THEIR PROPOSAL THAT THEY GAVE TO US.

CHRIS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT WHEN ARBOR CREEK CAME FORWARD THEY DID NOT MENTION IN THEIR APPLICATIONS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE SEEKING.

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CORRECT RIGHT THEY NEVER INDICATED THEY WERE GOING TO GO AFTER WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS THEY'RE GETTING TIF FOR THAT PROJECT BUT NEVER THROUGH THE REVIEW REZONING DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS THAT THEY EVER INDICATE WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

BECAUSE THE ARBOR CREEK ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR IN FRONT OF JELLO OR LOCKWOOD OR WHATEVER RIGHT THEY WOULD HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR REQUEST.

WELL PRIOR TO ANY OF THE OTHER ONES.

WELL, THEY'RE JUST NOW GOING FOR THIS APPLICATION CYCLE, BUT IN THEORY, YES, THEY COULD HAVE APPLIED LAST YEAR FOR IT WHEN THEY WERE BEFORE STARTING CONSTRUCTION, CORRECT? BECAUSE THEY'RE READY TO GO, IT LOOKS LIKE, WITH THAT CYCLE.

AND WE ALSO JUST RECENTLY APPROVED THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

THE WHOLE THING'S AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION.

THE STATE MAKES CHOICES THAT AFFECT US, HONESTLY, RETROACTIVELY.

AGAIN, NOT THAT THAT FIRST PROJECT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A GOOD ONE, BUT AS I STATED KIND OF BEFORE THE MEETING, I WAS TALKING TO THESE GUYS, I FEEL LIKE WE GOT A GENIE AND WE BLEW OUR FIRST WISH ON, DO I REALLY GET ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SILLY.

BUT I GUESS THE REASON FOR MY QUESTIONING BEFORE IS, IS IT NOT SOMETHING THAT, NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE AGAINST THE LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT, BUT IF WE'RE NOT READY TO TURN SHOVELS AND BUILD ON THAT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, WHY NOT WAIT? AND PUT THAT IN WITH NEXT YEAR'S ROUND OF OUR FOUR.

SINCE THIS IS THE PARAMETERS WE'RE IN, I MEAN, THE ARBOR CREEK ONE, THOUGH IT IS SMALLER, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSES, IN THEORY, PUT UP IN SHORT ORDER.

THEY'RE CLOSER TO THEIR BEING ABLE TO TURN SHOVELS, LIKE I SAID, AND BUILD AND GET THOSE HOUSES GOING.

WHICH, AGAIN, I KNOW THE BIGGER PROJECT WILL CREATE MORE HOUSING, BUT...

IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO TUITION FOR TWO YEARS, WHEN THEY GET TO THAT STAGE, BECAUSE THESE WILL HAPPEN IN WHAT, JUNE, EARLY JUNE, RIGHT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULDN'T DO NEXT YEAR AND THEN FACILITATE ALL OF THESE BY JUST REARRANGING THE TIMELINE OF THINGS? BECAUSE IN THIS IT SAYS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IRONING THINGS OUT WITH THEIR AGREEMENT, NOT TO GET INTO THAT.

WE'RE NOT OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THEIR...

PROJECT AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW IT IS OUR OUR LAND AND AND WE'RE SPEARHEADING THIS PROJECT AS THE OVERALL DEVELOPER LIKE WE WANT THEM TO COME IN AND DO THAT BUT DOES IT HAVE TO BE NOW WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE I GUESS IN THAT VERSUS IF IT COULD HAPPEN EIGHT MONTHS FROM NOW SURE THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE THE DEVELOPER NEEDS THE ANSWER BECAUSE YOU KNOW THESE TAX CREDITS ARE DRIVING THEIR PROJECT TIME SURE HOW LONG THEY WANT TO BE COMMITTED BUT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, SURE, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN COME BACK AND APPLY NEXT YEAR FOR IT, WE CAN GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION.

BUT I THINK THEY MIGHT NEED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THEY DO PLAN TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF.

I THINK ALL THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEIR APPLICATIONS.

BUT THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

WELL, I WANT ALL THE PROJECTS TO GO.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE ALL WORKED VERY HARD TO DO EVERYTHING, AND NOT JUST THE COUNCIL, BUT YOU GUYS, EVERYONE THAT'S HERE HAS WORKED TO GET ALL OF THESE TO COME TO FRUITION.

AND EVEN THE ONE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THEY SAT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET IT.

AND MY FEAR IS THE SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN ANY OF THESE CASES.

WHICHEVER ONE WE DON'T PICK, THE COSTS OF BUILDING ARE SO HIGH ANYMORE THAT IF YOU DON'T GET ALL THESE PIECES INTO THAT PUZZLE, IT MAKES IT NOT VERY COST EFFECTIVE TO DO THESE PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE CREDITS TO BEGIN WITH.

THEIR WHOLE INTENT IS, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO OFFER THIS CARROT FOR YOU TO COME AND DEVELOP AND DO THINGS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S HARDER FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE THE MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR IT TO BE COST EFFECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, COULD WE, LIKE I SAID, IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN REARRANGE SOME THINGS.

I MEAN, WE APPROVED, ONE WENT THROUGH IN EARLY FEBRUARY, SO WE'RE 10 MONTHS FROM NOW.

IF THAT PROJECT'S NOT GOING TO TURN DIRT FOR TWO YEARS.

WHY CAN WE NOT DO IT IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR? YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT THIS WAS ONE THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT EVERYONE'S COMING AND HOW THAT, I MEAN, IF THEY WERE TO GET, SO THEY GET THE HOUSING, THE CREDITS, THEY GET APPROVED, SAY, THIS YEAR.

DO THEY REALIZE THOSE FUNDS IN THIS YEAR? DO THEY REALIZE WHEN THEY START TO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO TAXABLE VALUATION, THERE'S NO BUILDING, THERE'S NO NOTHING THERE.

LIKE, WHEN DOES THAT ACTUALLY GET REALIZED? WHEN CONSTRUCTION COMMENCES, I GUESS, JOE, ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN LOCKWOOD SUBMITTED THAT RFP, THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

AND SO WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR A YEAR.

CORRECT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE ALSO KNEW AT THE TIME.

EVERYONE'S BEEN OPERATING ON THE ASSUMPTION THE STATE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THEY WERE.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET THE RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDERNEATH US.

AND THOSE GUYS DECIDE THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES AND PUSH THIS BACK TO US.

AND THEN WE GET FOUR, BUT THEN.

YOU'VE GOT CRESCENT OR ANY OF THESE OTHER SMALL TOWNS.

THEY ALSO GET FOUR.

BUT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE FOUR.

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I MEAN, YOU GO OUT TO ATLANTIC, THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON.

WHEREAS BEFORE, IT WAS NOT SO MUCH THIS WAY.

AND THE STATE COULD PICK THINGS THAT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT REALLY SHORTCHANGES THE LARGER CITIES IN ANYONE THAT'S GROWING.

IT PROBABLY WORKS GREAT FOR DES MOINES BECAUSE THEY'VE REACHED CAPACITY.

NOTHING'S HAPPENING UP THERE.

BUT, AGAIN, DES MOINES COMING BACK AND, IN MY JUST JOE'S OPINION, PUTTING THE SCREWS TO.

TO COUNCIL BLUFFS AND EVERY COMMUNITY LIKE US.

I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM, AND I SHOULDN'T BE AGITATED, AND I'M NOT AGITATED AT YOU, BUT IT JUST BOTHERS ME.

I'LL SAY ON CHRIS'S BEHALF, WE AGREE.

CORRECT.

LIKE, IT JUST...

THE FEELINGS YOU FEEL RIGHT NOW...

IT'S NOT...

YES.

IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING THAT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE CYCLE STARTED, THEY CHANGED THE RULES WITHOUT GIVING YOU A HEADS UP.

WELL, AND AGAIN, NOW WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE IN, AND IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NOT, BUT...

THEY HAPPENED TO GET THROUGH.

WE'RE NOT FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, EXCEPT FOR IF YOU WERE FIRST, BECAUSE THEN YOU GOT IT THROUGH, AND NOW YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? KNOWING THAT, KNOWING WHAT THE RULES AND THE PARAMETERS WERE, WHO KNOWS, THESE GUYS MIGHT HAVE DONE THINGS DIFFERENT.

THEY THOUGHT, NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE PARAMETERS ARE THIS, AND NOW THEY'VE CHANGED.

IT'S JUST AN UNFORTUNATE DEAL.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE IN A TOUGH SPOT THERE, CHRIS.

YEAH.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT OUR DECISION.

TO DO IT WAS BASED JUST ON NUMBER OF UNITS AND TAXABLE VALUE.

AND BELIEVE ME, AS A NUMBERS GUY, I TOTALLY GET THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ARE WE SENDING A MESSAGE TO OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT IF YOU WANT TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, WE'RE NOT THAT INTERESTED.

AND I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A HELL OF A LOT OF APARTMENTS COMING ONLINE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT WHERE IF ALL THESE APARTMENTS ARE TO GET FILLED, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE AN INFLUX OF POPULATION THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN A LOT OF WAYS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE ONLY GOT TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS GOING RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT DOES WORRY ME A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'VE GOT, I KNOW IT'S ONLY 16 UNITS, I GET THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT OTHER DEVELOPERS TO LOOK AT US AND SAY, LET'S GET SOMETHING GOING.

LET'S DO THIS.

BUT I GET IT.

IT'S A TOUGH SPOT.

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I'M LIKE, JOE, I'M GLAD THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION THAT WE GOT PUT INTO, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP AND WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EASY DEAL FOR YOU TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YEAH, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I'M.

PICKING ON YOU, MAN.

AGAIN, I APPRECIATE IT.

I WANT ALL OF YOU DEVELOPERS, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, I WANT ALL OF THIS TO HAPPEN.

I JUST REALLY WISH STATE OF WOULDN'T HAVE DONE WHAT THEY DID.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO GIVE CREDIT TO CHRIS FOR CALLING THIS OUT THAT WE NEEDED TO LET, AND HIS TEAM, TO LET THE DEVELOPERS KNOW OF THIS CHANGE AND PROACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO SAY, HEY, IF SOMEBODY'S COMING FORWARD, SO THAT WAY SOMEBODY DIDN'T COME A MONTH OR TWO DOWN THE ROAD.

AND THEY LOST OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO IT WAS A GREAT INSIGHT FROM CHRIS AND HIS TEAM TO DO THAT.

AND I DON'T FEEL PICKED ON, I UNDERSTAND.

IT WAS FRUSTRATING FOR US.

I BET.

BUT ONE THING, I THINK AS WE GET CLOSER TO NEXT YEAR'S CYCLE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY WORK TOGETHER ON SOME TYPE OF EVALUATION CRITERIA.

LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE STAFF LOOK AT AS THOSE APPLICATIONS COME IN SO WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE.

WELL, AND THERE WAS A I GOT A VIDEO SENT TO ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SENT IT TO THE RESCUE FROM ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS, AND IT KIND OF WENT OFF LIKE THE PARAMETERS THE STATE USED TO USE, LIKE THE GRADING KIND OF SYSTEM AND HOW THEY WOULD DO THINGS.

AGAIN, THEY'LL BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

I GUESS THEY CAN TALK.

BUT, YEAH, CORRECT, SOME SORT OF SYSTEM, I GUESS.

AGAIN, JUST AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION.

YEAH.

IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT MAYBE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

AS WELL AS WHAT IT BRINGS.

THAT WOULD BE NICE, I THINK.

AND TIME FRAME.

CAN YOU PULL YOUR MIC UP? RIGHT.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

AND TIME FRAME ALSO IS A FACTOR FOR HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO GET SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.

I AGREE.

IF WE'VE GOT ONE SITTING OUT THERE FOR A YEAR OR TWO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE READY.

THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.

WE'RE NOT SET FOR ANY OF THAT STUFF.

WE CAN PROVE IT NEXT YEAR.

OH, HERE'S YOUR MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO SIT ON IT FOR TWO YEARS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY ELSE READY TO GO.

AND IT'S LIKE, AH, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.

ALL RIGHT, LAST ONE FOR ME WOULD BE ITEM 8G. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH DARIAN SCOTT.

DARIAN ACTUALLY USED TO BE A FORMER PLANNING COMMISSIONER, BY THE WAY.

HE DID.

HE'S AN ARCHITECT, AND HE'S GETTING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT FIELD.

SO EXCITED FOR HIM.

HE WANTS TO BUY TWO LOTS IN OUR EAST MANILOW

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SUBDIVISION.

IT'S THE LOTS THAT ARE CLOSEST TO EAST MANILOW PARK.

TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNIT.

I THINK EACH SIDE WILL BE ABOUT $350,000 IS WHAT HE'S ESTIMATED.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PROJECT, AND HE'S SEEKING OUR SUPPORT TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY TO THEM AND ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH US.

I THINK IT'S GREAT, AND WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

THESE ARE SLAB ON GRADE, TWO-STORY, BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE DOWN THERE.

SO THERE'S SOME OTHER HOUSES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN BUILT SIMILAR DOWN THERE, AND SOME OF THE EMPTY LOTS, THEY CAME OUT REAL NICE.

YEAH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING DOWN THERE IS GOING TO BE SLAB ON GRADE BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE.

RIGHT.

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE, REALLY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, CHRIS.

ALL RIGHT, JUMPING BACK TO 7A.

THE ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE UPDATING FOR THE CAT STRAY CAT ORDINANCE.

OKAY, SO AFTER THE HUMANE SOCIETY CAME AND TOLD YOU GUYS ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THE TRAP NEUTER RETURN PROGRAM, THE MAYOR ASKED ME TO PUT TOGETHER THE CHANGES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT.

SO THESE ARE THE NECESSARY CHANGES.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEM.

EFFECTIVENESS OF.

SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS.

AT THE START THE COMMUNITY CAT, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO THE DEFINITIONS, COMMUNITY CATS ARE NOT WILDLIFE AND THEN COMMUNITY CAT CAREGIVER WE TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CAT CAREGIVER IS NOT AN OWNER, HARBOR, OR CONTROLLER, OR KEEPER OF THE COMMUNITY CAT BUT THEY'RE NOT WILDLIFE.

BUT THEY'RE NOT HARBORED BY THE PERSON PROVIDING SHELTER FOOD.

MEDICAL CARE AND A COMMUNITY AREA FOR THE CAT.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CAT SCRATCHES MY CHILD? WHERE DOES LIABILITY LIE? YOU CAN'T SAY NO IT'S A WILD ANIMAL.

THE CAT IS THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE FEEDING IT, YOU'RE HOUSING IT, YOU'RE TAKING IT TO THE VET.

AGAIN THIS IS JOE'S INSURANCE BRAIN GOING A LITTLE SILLY MAYBE.

SO IN THIS CASE YOU'RE NOT HOUSING IT YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT TO THE VET IT IS NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS HERE.

IT SAYS THE PERSON WHO PROVIDES CARE INCLUDES FOOD, SHELTER, MEDICAL CARE TO A COMMUNITY CAT.

AND THEN IT SAYS THIS, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING US TO APPROVE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THAT COMMUNITY CAT CAREGIVER, THAT PERSON IS NOT AN OWNER, WHICH, OKAY, YOU'RE NOT AN OWNER, BUT YOU'RE NOT A HARBORER.

WELL, YOU KIND OF ARE BY DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT IS.

YES.

YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING? WHAT I'M SAYING HERE.

YEAH, SO THE PURPOSE OF DEFINING IT IN THAT WAY IS TO AVOID THAT.

CORRECT.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEN IN THE PREVIOUS DEFINITION, THE COMMUNITY CATS ARE NOT THEN WILDLIFE, SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY? THEY ARE COMMUNITY CATS.

COMMUNITY CATS.

THEY JUST GET TO GO WITH IMPUNITY, AND ANYONE THAT MAY HAVE A CAT THAT MAY BE A GOOD OR BAD CAT, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SAY, AH, WELL, YOU KNOW, MY CAT, NO, MY CAT'S NOT BAD.

THAT'S JUST A COMMUNITY CAT.

YES.

SEE THE PROBLEM HERE? I SEE THE PROBLEM, BUT I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE NECESSARY CHANGES TO ALLOW A TRAP NEW TO RETURN PROGRAM, BUT I...

LIKE THE...

I WAS TELLING YOU, I'VE GONE DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE, AND THAT'S A MUCH NICER WAY THAN THE ALTERNATIVE FOR HANDLING THE CAT PROBLEM.

THERE'S MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE HAD MANY ISSUES WITH THAT, WHERE THEY'VE USED THAT IN AN EFFORT TO DECREASE POPULATION.

I MEAN, IT'S BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING, OBVIOUSLY, AND IT WILL CUT DOWN IN THE LONG TERM OF THEM.

IT'S A COMMUNITY TO PROCREATE AND JUST GROW NUMBERS LIKE CRAZY, I GUESS.

BUT MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE, IN MY OPINION, JOE'S, I SELL HAMBURGERS, WHAT DO I KNOW, A LEGAL LOOPHOLE HERE OF RESPONSIBILITY.

I MEAN, POTENTIALLY, YES, THAT WOULD CREATE A LOOPHOLE WHERE SOMEBODY WHO WAS AN OWNER OF A CAT COULD SAY THAT IT WAS A COMMUNITY CAT.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS IT'S A COMMUNITY CAT.

YES.

I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ANIMAL.

THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY TRUE.

I MEAN, HOW DO WE, I GUESS I JUST.

IT'S CONCERNING TO ME, I SUPPOSE.

I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S JUST HARD TO REALLY CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE.

CORRECT, SURE.

LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD DEFINE.

THE SAME THING COMES UP BACK AT THE BOTTOM WHERE WE TALK ABOUT, AND NOT TO JUMP AROUND ON IT, BUT THE ANIMAL AT LARGE.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN ANIMAL AT LARGE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT'S SAYING.

ANYWAYS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE IT.

IS ACTUALLY, LITERALLY, AN ANIMAL AT LARGE.

YES.

BY DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT IS.

SO THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED ANIMALS AT LARGE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY NEUTERED AND HAVE THEIR EARS TIPPED.

AGAIN, YES, THERE WOULD BE...

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DECLAW THEM OR ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLE AND THEN

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THEY'D BE DEFENSELESS AND THAT'D BE UNHUMANE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.

I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA.

I DON'T WANT MY FINGERS CUT OFF.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I JUST...

AMEN.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS, OF YOUR QUESTIONS, ARE SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY WOULD BE FAR MORE QUALIFIED TO ANSWER.

SORRY, AND I KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING JILL WHO WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BECAUSE I, LIKE, I JUST, HOW DOES THIS WORK? WHO'S, I GUESS, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE IN THIS CASE? BECAUSE I SURE AS HECK DON'T WANT US AS A CITY TO NOW TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITY, BECAUSE WE'VE...

DROP THIS CAT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOW DONE.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WOULDN'T IT BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY IF THAT'S WHAT I'M...

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO BE...

THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED A COMMUNITY CAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HELD.

AT WHAT CAPACITY OR WHAT POINT DO WE SAY WE'VE GOT COMMUNITY CATS, WE HAVE COMMUNITY DOGS? WE WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THE CITY WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY CAT.

SO NO ONE'S RESPONSIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT WILDLIFE.

WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE TO A CAT LIKE THAT, AND IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY? WE CAN JUST BE LIKE, OH, WHATEVER, WE JUST DECIDED TO MAKE THE CHANGE TO IT.

WE DROPPED IT BACK IN.

PUT IT BACK OUT THERE.

NOW IT'S NOBODY'S CAT AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET US INTO A BUNCH OF...

IS SOMEONE FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY COMING TONIGHT? THEY ARE NOT, NO.

BECAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH THE QUESTIONS.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE AT THE NEXT READING.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE TO THIS? STAFF TO HAVE IT SPAYED AND NEUTERED, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER IS, NO.

THERE IS A COST, THOUGH, THAT WE'RE INCURRING BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT, RIGHT? WHO'S GOING TO TALK? YEAH, RIGHT.

IS HUMANE SOCIETY DO IT OR IS IT GOING TO BE OUR HUMANE SOCIETY? CORRECT.

THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS THE ONE OPERATING THE PROGRAM.

THE CITY IS NOT OPERATING IT.

IT JUST ALLOWS THEM TO DO IT.

BECAUSE IF THEY DID IT AND PUT THE ANIMAL OUT THERE, THEN THEY'D BE LIABLE.

SO THEN THEY'D BE LIABLE.

I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUE OF THE LIABILITY.

I MEAN, THIS IS A WIDESPREAD PROGRAM.

SURE.

TO ME, BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL, OUR OFFICE WAS ASKED TO DRAFT THIS TO EFFECTUATE THE MAYOR'S REQUEST.

I DON'T MEAN TO BEAT YOU UP EITHER, MAN.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M JUST RAISING ON PARADES.

IN TERMS OF ADVOCATING FOR THE POLICY, I DON'T THINK.

BUT, AGAIN, YOU UNDERSTAND MY POSITION.

YOU SEE WHERE IT, YEAH.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING, AND THEY HAD A SCHEDULING CONFLICT.

THE HUMANE SOCIETY, I ACTUALLY HAD NIKKI IN MY OFFICE THIS AFTERNOON.

SHE'S AT A CONFERENCE THIS AFTERNOON, SO OUT OF TOWN, SO SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT.

AND SO SHE HAS IT ON HER CALENDAR TO BE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING IF IT WERE TO PASS TONIGHT, ON THE SECOND READING.

I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THE LIABILITY QUESTION.

I MEAN, MY GUT TELLS ME THAT IF THERE IS A GOOD FAITH.

BASIS FOR TAKING THESE CATS IN TRAPPING THEM NEUTERING THEM AND RELEASING THEM THAT CITIES WOULDN'T THEN BE DEEMED LIABLE AS THE OWNERS THAT WE'RE ACTING TO CONTROL THE CAT POPULATION AND IT'S NOT SUDDENLY GOING TO CREATE LIABILITY.

REALISTICALLY I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH WITH THE THE PERSON THAT IS NOT THE OWNER HARBOR OR WHATEVER BUT FEEDS THEM SHELTERS THEN KEEPS THEM PROVIDES MEDICAL CARE TO THEM WHAT'S THE DEFINITE AT WHAT POINT DOES THE DEFINITION CHANGE FROM THEIR YOUR CAT TO THEIR SOMEONE ELSE LIKE YOUR YOU'RE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS UNNATURAL THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE HERE.

THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE IF YOU DIDN'T GIVE THEM KIBBLE EVERY NIGHT AND FEED THEM.

YOU EFFECTIVELY ARE THEY'RE YOUR CAT.

THEY'RE A BARN CAT, WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF IN IOWA, BUT THEY'RE STILL YOUR CAT.

SO AT THAT POINT WHEN WE WERE GETTING INTO THE POLICY, I THINK THAT'S THE MAYOR AND NIKKI.

YES.

OKAY.

AGAIN, THIS DOES WORK LONG TERM.

BUT THE HUMANE SOCIETY CAN'T LOOK.

MAYBE WE NEED AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T FEED STRAY CATS.

THE HUMANE SOCIETY NEEDS THE ORDINANCE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO KNOCK OUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO IS THERE AN APPETITE TO DO THIS? AND IF SO, THEN IF IT PASSES THROUGH READING ONE, WE CAN COMPILE QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT NIKKI IS PREPARED TO SPEAK TO IT AGAIN.

MAYBE WE NEED AN ORDINANCE THAT.

SAYS YOU CAN'T HARBOR AND FEED CATS THAT ARE WILD OR LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THERE IS ALREADY A STRAY CAT ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT NO PERSON SHALL ALLOW ANY STRAY CAT TO HABITUALLY REMAIN OR BE LODGED OR FED WITHIN HIS OR HER HOUSE, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REPEALED.

WE'RE PULLING ALL THAT OUT IN THE DELETED SECTION, RIGHT? WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO ALLOW THIS PROGRAM.

DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY NUMBERS? AS TO WHY THIS IS NECESSARY NOW, ARE WE SEEING A HUGE INFLUX OF FERAL CATS OUT THERE NOW AS COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST 20 YEARS? SO THEY SPOKE TO THAT WHEN THEY CAME? THEY DIDN'T GIVE ANY NUMBERS.

THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD A COMMUNITY CAT ORDINANCE, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAID, OH, IT'S GONE UP 20% OR IT'S GONE UP 5%.

I'LL GET THE NUMBER.

YEAH, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT.

THEY'RE OUT OF SPACE, BASICALLY, AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO HAVE SPACE AVAILABLE AS THEY BRING THE CATS IN BEFORE THEY HAVE TO EUTHANIZE THEM.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE

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DOING RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE OUT OF SPACE, AND SO I WILL HAVE NIKKI PROVIDE NUMBERS.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF USE FOR THEM, LIKE HORSES OR SOMETHING.

YOU COULD SEND THEM TO A CAT FARM AND THEY WOULD DO, LIKE, WORK OR SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY CAN HUNT MICE FOR YOU.

YEAH, THEY CAN HUNT MICE.

WELL, FARMS LIKE TO HAVE CATS AROUND FOR THE MICE AND AROUND THE BINS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

RIGHT.

YEAH, BUT THEN IF YOU KEEP AWAY FROM THE PHEASANT POPULATION, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEBATE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JAKE ON THE LEGAL TERMS? THE WORDING OF THE ORDINANCE.

YEAH, JUST LIKE I SAID, THE AT-LARGE BUSINESS, THE STUFF I TALKED ABOUT, IF YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, IT'S NICE THAT THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE HERE THAT I ASSUME GIVES SOME TEETH TO PEOPLE LEAVING THEIR DOGS OUT WHEN IT'S FREEZING COLD OUT, YOU KNOW.

AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT LINES OF IT AND STUFF.

AND ALL OF THAT STUFF IS CURRENTLY THERE.

YEAH, CORRECT.

THAT'S ALL.

A LOT OF THE CHANGES TO THE ANIMAL CRUELTY ONE, I JUST KIND OF TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO RE- NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

YEAH, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH IT, THAT WAS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT PIZZA AND ALL THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY HOW IT'S BEEN.

ROGER, ARE YOU STILL ON WITH US? I AM.

ROGER, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE.

YEAH, I JUST, I KIND OF ECHO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT JOE SAID, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THEM BEING OUT OF SPACE SUCKS, BUT I'M WITH JOE.

LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY LET'S KILL THESE CATS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE SITUATION WE'RE IN.

I DON'T THINK JOE WAS SAYING THAT.

HE SAID HE WAS IN FAVOR OF IT BUT WANTED SOME LANGUAGE CLARIFIED.

I DON'T WANT A FREE LOOPHOLE.

HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT.

JOE, NOW YOU'RE ON RECORD.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KILL THE CATS? I'M A DOG GUY, FOR THE RECORD.

THAT IS JOE.DESALVO.

AT COUNCILBLOODSTAFF.COM.

IT'S NOT, I MEAN, NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT.

NO, CORRECT.

BUT IT'S JUST THE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION WE'RE IN.

OKAY.

ROGER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I HAVE, SO I ALSO HAVE 8H, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'M MUCH MORE QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON.

OKAY, SO CBPD DID TOBACCO COMPLIANCE CHECKS IN JANUARY.

THERE WERE THREE STORES, CASEY'S ON 23RD AVENUE, I-80 LIQUOR, AND VIP SMOKE, THAT ALL SOLD TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO UNDERAGE PEOPLE.

WE GAVE THEM NOTICE THAT PURSUANT TO YOUR AUTHORITY AS THE LOCAL LICENSING AUTHORITY, WE WOULD BE ASSESSING A CIVIL PENALTY AGAINST THEM AFTER A HEARING.

THEY ALL AGREED TO PAY THE $300.

PAYMENT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN SIGNED, AND THIS RESOLUTION JUST AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE ORDERS ACCEPTING THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? THANK YOU, JAKE.

I COULD HAVE ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.

ALL RIGHT, JUMPING BACK TO 8B, RESOLUTION OF SALE AND TRANSFER OF THE INTERNET DOMAIN.

YES.

SO THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY ASHLEY, OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.

BLINKWIFI.ORG AND UNLEASHCB ARE REALLY OPERATED EXCLUSIVELY BY THE VISITORS BUREAU, AND SO THIS RESOLUTION...

JUST SELLS THOSE DOMAIN NAMES TO THE VISITOR'S BUREAU FOR NOMINAL CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THOSE WEBSITES TO REST WITH THE ENTITY THAT USES THEM.

QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? DO WE KNOW, WILL WE, DO WE HAVE STATS? WILL WE GET STATS ON SOME OF THOSE WEBPAGE HITS? I KNOW I ASKED MARK WHEN HE WAS HERE BEFORE, AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE HONEST, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE HE SAID THAT PEOPLE.

HIT OUR PAGES 1.6 TIMES THAT'S IT AND WE HE DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME ON THE SITE OR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT GET FROM THEM IN THE FUTURE MAYBE WHEN WE GIVE THEM THIS COULD THEY BREAK DOWN LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THAT OR COMING TO THE SITES OR ANYTHING I KNOW HE HAS STATS AGAIN BECAUSE EVERY THEY'RE THE ONES

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THAT OPERATE AND MAINTAIN AND AND DEVELOP THESE, THE CONTENT, WE DID NOT.

SPEAK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IN DEVELOPING THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE THE IDEA WAS THEY HANDLE ALL OF IT SO THEY SHOULD OWN IT.

I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO MARK IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.

YEAH, MAYBE IF, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE HAS THE ANNUAL REPORTS, HE DOES THOSE THINGS FOR US.

IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO SAY, HEY, THIS PARTICULAR DOMAIN CREATED X AMOUNT, THIS ONE CREATED X AMOUNT, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU'RE WANTING THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO VOTING ON THIS RESOLUTION OR IN THE FUTURE? I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING AS WE MOVE FORWARD, MAYBE WHEN WE TURN THAT OVER TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, IF THIS COULD BE PART OF THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE GET NEXT YEAR.

GOT IT, YEAH.

JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL TO SEE WHO'S COMING TO THE SITE, HOW LONG THEY'RE STAYING ON THE SITE, WHAT PAGES ARE GOING ON THE SITE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND ALL OF THOSE WEB PROVIDERS WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS.

HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? 8C.

THIS IS JUST, THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING SINCE THE DOJ PASSED A RULING IN APRIL OF 2024 STATING THAT THE ADA REQUIRED WEB CONTENT AND WEB APPLICATIONS TO BE ADA COMPLIANT, MEANING THAT THEY ARE READABLE BY SCREEN READERS, THAT THEY HAVE CERTAIN RULES IN PLACE FOR COLOR CONTRAST, THAT THERE'S ALTERNATE TEXT AVAILABLE, BASICALLY SETTING FORTH GUIDELINES THAT ANY WEB CONTENT OR WEB APPLICATIONS THAT RELATE TO GOVERNMENT SERVICES BEING PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND BY OTHER MUNICIPAL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO BECOME COMPLIANT.

THE DEADLINE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS FRIDAY.

AS OF TODAY, THE DOJ ISSUED A RULING.

ACTUALLY RECOGNIZING THAT THE LIFT REQUIRED TO MEET THAT DEADLINE WAS SO BURDENSOME AND EXTENSIVE FOR CITIES THAT THEY HAVE PUSHED US OUT, PUSHED IT OUT AND GIVEN US ANOTHER YEAR.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE DONE ALL OF THE WORK.

ASHLEY, OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, WHO IS INCREDIBLE, AND ALSO SARAH, HEATHER, FRANCIS, MARK, I'M FORGETTING SOMEBODY.

BEN.

MICHAELA, SORRY, HAVE PUT IN JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HOURS ALONG WITH ALL OF THE STAFF HERE AT THE CITY WHO THANK YOU.

MAKE WEB CONTENT FOR THE CITY HAVE GONE THROUGH A TWO-HOUR TRAINING PROGRAM TO GET UP TO SPEED ON HOW TO MAKE CONTENT ACCESSIBLE.

ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE GONE THROUGH AND DONE A REVIEW OF THE PAGES THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TO REMOVE CONTENT THAT IS NOT COMPLIANT.

AND PART OF THE POLICY IS...

OUTLINING HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT GOING FORWARD.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE AN ADA TRANSITION PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

BASICALLY OUTLINING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING IT.

SO SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL OF THE WORK AND WE'RE READY TO GO, IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND INITIATE IT NOW AND USE THE NEXT YEAR IN ORDER TO REALLY REFINE OUR PROCESSES, CONTINUE TO GET FURTHER AHEAD SO THAT BY THE TIME THE NEW DEADLINE HITS WE WILL BE UP AND RUNNING ALREADY.

THAT SOMEWHAT TIES TO THE ONE RIGHT UP ABOVE IT, WHERE IF WE OWN THOSE DOMAINS, WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE COMPLIANT, AND WE DON'T MANAGE, RUN, OR OPERATE THOSE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF EXTRA WORK THAT WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO.

AND CHARTS AND GRAPHS ARE PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT FOR COMPLIANCE.

THANK YOU, PANTASSA.

THANK YOU, WHITNEY.

ALL RIGHT, JUMPING THEN TO OUR LAST 8I.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CREATION AND APPROVAL OF...

APPROVAL OF THE HOMELESS SERVICE COORDINATOR POSITION WITHIN MY OFFICE.

AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THE AGENDA SAYS 50, 153, BUT IT'S 163 AS THE REST OF THE DOCUMENTS IN THE PACKET NOTE.

163 INSTEAD OF 153.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS A CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR MAYOR, I SPOKE TO THE NEED FOR THIS.

LAST YEAR, THE COUNCIL WAS VERY VOCAL AND DIRECT.

AND NOT HAVING A LOT OF INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS AS FAR AS WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, PARTICULARLY TO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS AND TO JUST WORK ITSELF ON THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS POSITION, IF APPROVED TONIGHT, WILL GO TO CIVIL SERVICE AND GET APPROVED NEXT WEEK THEN FROM THAT.

BUT...

IOWA WEST FOUNDATION IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HELP FUND THIS OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS JUST LIKE THEY DID FOR THE CHASTITY'S POSITION ON THE HOP TEAM WHERE THEY WILL STAIR STEP FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS THE PAYMENTS THERE.

BUT THIS PERSON WILL BE SOME OF

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THE RESPONSIBILITIES WILL IT'S MORE LEADERSHIP AND PLANNING.

SO DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING A RESPONSE STRATEGY ALIGNED ACROSS FEDERAL AND STATE INITIATIVES, WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.

IT WILL BE THE PRIMARY LIAISON FOR THE CITY, ALL THE NONPROFITS, COC, REGIONAL PARTNERS, AS WELL AS A TASK FORCE THAT'S BEING FORMED WITH THE OMAHA METRO AREA PARTNERS AS WELL.

SO THEY WILL BE ATTENDING MEETINGS.

THEY WILL BE PROVIDING THE COUNCIL REGULAR UPDATES.

THEY WILL BE WORKING ON PROGRAM AND POLICY IMPLEMENTATION, LOOKING FOR FEDERAL FUNDS, STATE FUNDS, GRANT WRITING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, TO REALLY DIVE IN AND HAVE A LEADING FOREFRONT FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

AND SPEAKING WITH CHIEF DAVIS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS POSITION WHEN I WAS ELECTED.

AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT HE FACES...

KIND OF A ROADBLOCK ON IS WITH THE HOP TEAM IS THAT THEY DON'T REPORT TO THE MAYOR, THEY REPORT INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO TO HAVE THE WEIGHT OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BEHIND SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES HOLDS A DIFFERENT WEIGHT LEVEL.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE REALLY WAS IN FAVOR OF AND THINKS THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THE DATA THAT IS NEEDED.

TO REALLY BRING THE PARTNERS TOGETHER, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.

SO IOWA WEST WOULD FUND THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN WE WOULD FUND THE ENTIRETY OF IT AFTER THE FIRST YEAR? NO.

SO THE WAY HOW CHASTITY'S POSITION ON THE HOP TEAM IS, IS THAT THEY FUNDED 75% THE FIRST YEAR, 50% THE SECOND YEAR, 25% THE THIRD YEAR.

IT ALLOWS IOWA WEST TO HAVE SOME CONTROL IN THAT PROCESS SO WE CAN REFINE THE POSITION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS INSTEAD OF HIRING.

FOR ONE POSITION AND NOT KNOWING IF IT'S GOING TO WORK OR NOT.

SO ON YEAR, FIRST YEAR, WE WOULD FUND 25%.

SECOND YEAR, THE CITY WOULD FUND 50%.

THIRD YEAR, WE WOULD FUND 75%. FOURTH YEAR, FULLY ONTO US.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE MONEY FOR THIS POSITION IS BEING UTILIZED FROM NOT FILLING THE CHIEF OF STAFF ROLE.

I SEE THE THE SALARY BASE PAY DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR THAT LIKE THE TOTAL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY BENEFITS ALSO COST A LOT SO DO WE HAVE THAT FIGURE FOR HOW MUCH THAT IS ESTIMATED UM WE'LL HAVE TO GET WITH MICHELLE TO SEE WHAT THAT IS I THINK IN THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME IT WAS 30 TO 35,000 OR 30 TO 40,000.

I'D SAY IT WAS ABOUT 30,000 IN THE BENEFIT PACKAGE.

DEPENDING ON THE PACKAGE, THE SCALE.

SO WELL WITHIN THE RANGE OF THAT POSITION THAT I WOULD BE BILLING.

DO WE FEEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A GRADE 30? THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AROUND THE STATE.

THEY AVERAGE BETWEEN 50 AND 90,000.

COMMUNITY COORDINATORS DES MOINES MAKES ABOUT 90,000 OR 85,000 I THINK OMAHA'S IS 90,000 WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND AT COMMUNITY HOMELESS COORDINATORS THIS IS QUITE A BIT HIGHER.

SO IT WOULD BE A DIRECTOR LEVEL POSITION ALSO WITH GRANT WRITING FUNDING THINGS OF THAT NATURE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN A DIFFERENT ONE OR A DIFFERENT PAY GRADE, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

WE MIGHT NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL THEN IF WE CAN'T FIND ANYBODY.

AND LOOKING AT THE SALARIES, TALKING TO OMAHA AND IOWA WEST, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS IN LINE.

SO THIS IS AN ADD TO STAFF.

THIS IS A BRAND-NEW POSITION.

THIS IS A BRAND-NEW POSITION.

RIGHT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE THIS NEW POSITION ALONG WITH WHAT CHASTITY IS DOING WITH THE HOP PROGRAM.

RIGHT, WHICH IS IN THE BUDGET YOU GUYS APPROVED ALREADY THE LAST TIME.

YEP.

THIS POSITION IS NOT IN THE BUDGET.

THIS IS BRAND NEW.

THE MONEY WAS IN THE BUDGET.

CORRECT.

YES.

BUT THE POSITION IS NOT.

THE POSITION WAS NOT VOTED ON YET BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO FINALIZE THE AGREEMENT WITH IOWA WEST.

BUT THE DOLLARS FOR THE POSITION WAS IN THE BUDGET YOU GUYS APPROVED.

WE APPROVED THE BUDGET FOR CHIEF OF STAFF.

THAT'S WHAT SHE'S REALLOCATING.

WELL, IT DOESN'T BREAK OUT BY THE...

WELL, CORRECT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT WAS THE PLACEHOLDER, EFFECTIVELY, OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, DOUG, I THINK.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ESSENTIALLY BE SPENDING OVER $200,000-SOME-THOUSAND ON TWO HOMELESS POSITIONS.

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BY THE TIME WE GET BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IRONED OUT AND YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR ONE, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

I GUESS, JOE, YOU SAID REALLY TO...

BRING ALL THE PLAYERS TO THE TABLE AND GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

YEP.

WE NEED, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S CRAZY TO SAY WE NEED A NEW POSITION TO GET ALL THE PLAYERS TO THE TABLE.

LIKE, WHY ARE THEY NOT AT THE TABLE ALREADY? LIKE, WHY IS THAT NOT HAPPENING IF ALL THESE NONPROFITS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER ON THE HOMELESS ISSUE IN OUR TOWN? WHY DO WE HAVE TO CREATE A NEW POSITION FOR THAT TO HAPPEN? AND I FEEL LIKE THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SHOULD CARRY A VERY SIMILAR WEIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S CRAZY.

THERE IS REPORTING METRICS THAT THE CHIEF CANNOT GET TO THROUGH HIS DIVISION AT A STATE LEVEL.

JUST, YEAH, TONY.

THE CONCERN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S INVOLVEMENT IS IN ORDER TO GET...

CERTAIN FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN HUMAN INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH IS ACRONYM TO HIMSS.

THAT SYSTEM IS HOW ALL THE SHELTERS AND HOSPITALS USE IT TO KIND OF, I MEAN, COORDINATE, COMMUNICATE, AND WORK THROUGH HANDOFFS.

BUT MUCH LIKE HIPAA, THERE ARE VERY STRICT GUIDELINES AS TO WHO CAN ACCESS IT, WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH IT, HOW IT'S TREATED, HOW IT'S HANDLED.

AND ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT HOP HAS...

PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED, CHIEF DAVIS ISN'T HERE, OTHERWISE I'D HAVE HIM SPEAK DIRECTLY TO IT, BUT IT IS THE CONCERN THAT HAVING GIVING LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCESS TO THAT DATABASE WOULD OPEN THE DOOR TO THAT INFORMATION BEING USED IMPROPERLY.

AND SO IT CITIES HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN AROUND THAT PROBLEM BY HAVING A ROLE IN WHETHER IT'S THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, BUT OUTSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE HOP PROGRAM DOES FANTASTIC WORK BUT ONE OF THE LIMITING FACTORS IS THAT HOP, THE POLICE OFFICERS CAN'T INITIATE OR PUT DATA INTO THAT SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THE SYSTEM AND SO BY HAVING SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THAT SYSTEM FOR THE CITY IT IT WILL ALLOW AN AVENUE TO WHEN HOP IS MAKING FIRST CONTACT.

WITH AN INDIVIDUAL TO GET THEM INTO THE SYSTEM, TO GET THEM HANDED OFF TO THE PROPER, YOU KNOW, THE SHELTER, THE PEER CENTER, WHATEVER SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE THERE.

WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOP COULD REPORT IT TO THAT PERSON.

THAT PERSON COULD PUT ALL THE INFORMATION IN FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN THAT WAY WE'RE BETTER COORDINATING THE CARE OF INDIVIDUALS AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

AREN'T WE CURRENTLY.

THE HOP PROGRAM WORKING WITH THE PEER CENTER, THEY JUST DISCUSSED IT PREVIOUSLY, HOW THEY COORDINATE WITH THEIR HEALTH.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT CURRENTLY WORKS, AND I CERTAINLY COULD BE WRONG, BUT IN MEETING WITH CHASTITY, YOU KNOW, CHASTITY HAS HISTORICALLY, I MEAN, SHE'S, I THINK, STILL CURRENTLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE METHODIST HEALTH SYSTEM.

AND SO BECAUSE SHE IS EMPLOYED THROUGH THEM, SHE IS ABLE TO ACCESS.

AND HANDLE ALL THAT DATA AND INFORMATION.

THAT'S WHY SHE'S A REFERRAL PERSON.

THAT'S WHY SHE'S ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT SHE CAN DO.

HOWEVER, AS SHE TRANSITIONS HER EMPLOYMENT FROM METHODIST TO THE CITY, SHE'S GOING TO BE EMBEDDED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I THINK PART OF THE CONCERN IS THAT WE WILL LOSE THAT ABILITY BECAUSE SINCE SHE'LL NO LONGER BE AN EMPLOYEE OF METHODIST, HER ABILITY TO ACCESS THAT WILL BE CHANGED.

SO THE NONPROFITS WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA THAT WE WOULD NOT.

OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CARRIER.

THIS PERSON IS GOING TO WORK FOR US AS WELL, THOUGH, RIGHT? SO IS IT SOMETHING? IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT.

LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T TOUCH THE DATABASE.

AND SO SOMEBODY IN MY OFFICE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

WOULD IT, INSTEAD OF HAVING HER TRANSITION TO WORKING FOR THE PD, WOULD IT NOT MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE HER THEN TRANSITION TO WORKING FOR YOU? SO CHASTITY IS.

TACTICAL OUT ON THE STREET THIS PERSON IS POLICY NO I KNOW THAT BUT THEN SHE WOULD STILL NOT BE UNDER PD CHASTITY WOULD COME UP UNDERNEATH YOU YOU SEE WHAT I'M

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SAYING LIKE YEAH SHE BECAUSE SHE'S ON THE STRAIGHT OUTREACH SHE'S PART OF SHE WILL BE PART OF THE HOP TEAM THE HOP TEAM IS UNDERNEATH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YEAH SO I CAN'T MOVE THE ENTIRE HOP TEAM OVER TO NO I'M JUST SAYING HER LIKE I KNOW, LIKE I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T HAVE THE POLICE OFFICER, LIKE THEY'RE STILL UNDER LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU MAKE IT SOUND ALMOST LIKE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE HER, SHE'S GOING TO GO TO HOPS, OR WE'RE GOING TO BACKFILL WHAT SHE HAS ACCESS TO KIND OF NOW.

THAT'S JUST A SMALL PIECE OF IT, RIGHT? SO THE REPORTING PIECE, RIGHT? BUT CHASTITY IS NOT OUT LOOKING FOR FUNDING, SHE'S NOT DOING GRANTS, SHE'S NOT DOING TACTICAL PLANNING, SHE'S NOT...

COORDINATING WITH ALL THE PARTNERS OR WITH OMAHA.

ISN'T THAT WHAT THE NONPROFITS DO? THEY HAVE GRANT WRITERS.

WE JUST HAD THEM COME IN AND TALK ABOUT IT.

RIGHT, BUT THEY'RE NOT WORKING TOGETHER, AND THEY'RE NOT REPORTING BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WILL THAT FALL BACK TO THE TAXPAYER TO MAKE THEM WORK TOGETHER? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE THEIR DEAL.

WHY HAS THIS COME BACK TO US TO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT TO NOW PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND SAY, WELL, WE GOT TO GET MORE DATA.

YOU CAN GET IT, BUT WE CAN'T GET IT.

POLICE CAN'T HAVE IT.

OH, THIS PERSON CAN.

NOW WE PUT IT ON THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLAR AND SAY, HERE, WE'RE GOING TO JUST KEEP ADDING HERE.

I THINK IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE DONE VERY WELL WITH OUR HOP PROGRAM, WITH WORKING WITH...

THE NONPROFITS, WE REALLY HAVE MADE GOOD STRIDES, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE PEER CENTER AND STARTED.

THEY'RE GETTING THE DATA AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO US.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY IS WHAT WE NEED ON TOP OF IT.

I THINK WE NEED, AND I'VE SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES, WE NEED A COORDINATED, METRO-WIDE.

TRIAGE CENTER OR CENTER.

THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE PEER CENTER.

AND ALL ACTUALLY IS TRIAGING PEOPLE AND TRYING TO FIND PLACEMENTS.

HOUSING IS GOING TO BE HUGELY IMPORTANT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF A POSITION LIKE THIS IS REALLY GOING TO TRULY HELP THE HOMELESS SITUATION.

YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY? YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, SO WE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF HOMELESSNESS CONVERSATIONS IN THE FALL.

WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS ON COUNCIL, AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONTEXT, I CAN TELL YOU ESSENTIALLY EXACTLY WHY.

ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHERE WE WERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, THE COUNCIL KIND OF ASKED, WELL, WHY ISN'T THE CITY AT THE TABLE? OR WHAT IS THE CITY'S PRESENCE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS? AND THE ANSWER IS WE HAVE NONE, RIGHT? SO WHAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE, I MEAN, WE HAVE NONPROFITS DOING REALLY GOOD THINGS.

BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS TO CHASE FUNDING DIFFERENTLY.

EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS THEIR OWN AGENDA THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.

AND WHILE EVERYBODY MEANS WELL, IT DOESN'T LEAD TO COHESION.

IT DOESN'T LEAD TO ANY KIND OF UNIFORM, TRACKED, DATA-DRIVEN SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY CAN RECOGNIZE THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO WHAT THE INTENT IS...

AND I'M TAKING MY ATTORNEY HAT OFF FOR A SECOND, JUST KIND OF TALKING TO YOU AS, YOU KNOW, PART OF MY JOB PREVIOUSLY WAS WORKING WITH EVIDENCE-BASED PROGRAMS, PROBLEM-SOLVING COURTS.

SO TAKING INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOMELESS, MENTAL HEALTH, ADDICTION, WHATEVER THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, POVERTY, GENERATIONAL TRAUMA, NOT EVEN GENERATION, JUST ANY TRAUMA, REALLY, AND WORKING THE EVIDENCE-BASED PROGRAMS, RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT.

ROGER AND I HAVE HAD IN THE PAST IS, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS ISN'T TO SPEAK TO SUPPORT OR AGAINST IT, BUT JUST IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE SPENT BY THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS A CONCERN IS THAT WHAT WHAT IS THE RETURN THAT WE'RE GETTING? WE OFTEN CAN'T MEASURE IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S PASSED THROUGH FUNDING, EVEN IF IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING COMING FROM US TO TWO ORGANIZATIONS WHERE.

IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY, YOU KNOW, IS IT REASONABLE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR ALL FIVE OF YOU OR ONE OF YOU, TO REALLY BE UP TO DATE ON ALL THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUES, ON WHAT IS BEST SUITED, HOW A GOVERNMENT SHOULD TACKLE THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE, AND WHAT KIND OF COST SAVINGS COULD THE CITY REALIZE IF, YOU KNOW, YOU ENGAGE IN THIS VERSUS THAT, AND REALLY PURSUE GRANTS, REALLY PURSUE...

SO, TONY, WHAT WOULD THEY BE PURSUING? THEY'D BE PURSUING GRANTS FOR US AS A CITY OR PURSUING GRANTS FOR LIKE...

YES, AS A CITY.

SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, INVEST IN A CENTER, LIKE STEVE IS TALKING ABOUT.

WE DON'T HAVE A PARTNER STEP

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ENOUGH TO DO THAT, RIGHT? SO SOMEBODY, IF THAT IS A WAY THAT WE WANT TO GO...

SO THEY'D BE APPLYING FOR GRANTS FOR US SO IT WOULD COME INTO THE CITY TO DO THINGS WITH.

TO POSSIBLY OR LIKE TO PAY FOR THEIR POSITION PERHAPS.

THEN WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE DATA TO SAY, PARTNER A IS DOING A GREAT JOB AT XYZ.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE.

LET'S GIVE PARTNER A MORE MONEY.

PARTNER D ISN'T DOING A GREAT JOB, AND THEY'VE ONLY BEEN WORKING WITH THREE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

PARTNER D PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED TO GET AS MUCH MONEY AS PARTNER A.

AND SO THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT.

THEY'D ALSO BE WORKING WITH MAYOR EWING'S TEAM AND THE METRO ACROSS THE RIVER.

ON DIFFERENT INITIATIVES AS A COALITION THAT WE'VE STARTED, THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ROLLING OUT TO THE PUBLIC HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND REALLY FOCUSING ON THE TRUE PROBLEM.

AND IT COMES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION THAT THE FOUR OF OR THREE OF US HAD, FOUR OF US AT THE TIME OF THE CITY WAS NOT AT THE TABLE.

CAN I INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND? ROGER'S GETTING READY TO BOARD A PLANE, BUT HE WANTED TO SAY A FEW MORE THINGS BEFORE HE'S GONE.

OK.

I GUESS I JUST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE AT THE TABLE TOGETHER.

LIKE IT'S THE SAME MISSION, SAME GOAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

THROWING MORE MONEY AT THIS SITUATION DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT SOLUTION.

IF WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT I GUESS FOR ME PERSONALLY, TRULY, I.

I THINK WILL HELP.

I'M OKAY WITH ADDING DOLLARS, BUT I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY ELSE ADDING MORE, A SIX-FIGURE POSITION IS GOING TO GET US MORE GRANTS.

LIKE THE GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WE'RE APPLYING FOR, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THEM, OR WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THEM, HOWEVER THAT WORKS.

I JUST DON'T SEE- THE CITY'S NOT ACTIVELY PURSUING GRANTS, SO WE ARE NOT- I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD BE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

I DON'T THINK HAVING, AS STEVE SAID, ANOTHER LAYER IS THE GOAL.

I GUESS IT'S NOT MY GOAL.

I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT AND WE'VE LEFT IT TO THE PARTNERS AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AT A DIFFERENT LENS.

I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD OUR POLICE CHIEF AND OUR FIRE CHIEF SITTING ON IT.

THE COMMUNITY COALITION FOR CARE FOR OVER TWO YEARS, OR THREE YEARS NOW.

SO THEY'RE AT THE TABLE.

WE'RE AT THE TABLE.

THEY'RE BRINGING THE INFORMATION TO US.

IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT...

GO AHEAD, ROGER.

ONE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO ASK IS, WHAT VALUE DOES US HAVING THAT INFORMATION GIVE? YOU KNOW, AS A FUNDING SOURCE...

FOR SOME OF THESE THAT WE'VE HELPED OUT WITH, I WOULD THINK WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.

AND THEN AGAIN, IF WE DO GET THE INFORMATION, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT? SO NOW WE KNOW THAT THIS PERSON'S IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT VALUE DOES THAT BRING THAT WE HAVE IT VERSUS THE HOMELESS VERSUS THE NONPROFITS HAVING IT? THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION.

WE CAN HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE AS FAR AS HOW THEY'RE WORKING WITH PEOPLE, HOW DO THEY DEFINE SUCCESS, WHAT TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES.

ASSIST WITH THE PAST COORDINATION FROM ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER GROUP.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE.

WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT NOW? WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? WELL, HERE'S THE THING.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS NO CONTINUUM OF CARE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THERE IS NO PLACE TO PLACE THESE PEOPLE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DRUG REHABILITATION PROGRAMS AROUND.

SO HAVING ANOTHER LAYER OF $130,000 OR $100,000 TO $130,000 POSITION IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THOSE.

SO EVEN IF WE DO HAVE ALL THE DATA, WE DO STILL NOT HAVE A PLACE TO PLACE THEM OR TO TRIAGE THEM.

AND SO I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE CITY.

WE CAN WRITE GRANTS, BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THESE GRANTS? I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK ANYWAY.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED THIS POSITION.

IT JUST COMPOUNDS ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY ON TOP OF A...

PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN UNADDRESSED FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS.

AND I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I TOTALLY DO.

BUT IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, WE ARE CONTINUING HOW WE'VE BEEN.

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OKAY, AND I WILL SAY THIS.

SO THIS IS A WAY TO CHANGE IT.

I WILL SAY THIS.

I LIVE THIS THING, AND I KNOW THE BUREAUCRACY, AND I RECOGNIZE THE BUREAUCRACY.

I COULD GIVE YOU THE STATS.

THERE IS NO HELP OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

AND PUTTING A POSITION IN TO THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO HELP OUT THERE.

I JUST DON'T SEE THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS COORDINATE WITH OUR METRO AREA, AND THIS IS MY BELIEF.

WHO? I'LL DO IT.

I HAVE TIME.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING OUT AND COORDINATING THIS.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING IT.

AND THIS IS NOT ONLY JUST A COUNCIL PLUS PROBLEM.

THIS IS A PARK COUNTY PROBLEM.

AND SO WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE AND GET THIS SOLVED.

WE HAD A PERSON IN HERE JUST NOW THAT'S TRYING TO DO THIS.

HE CONTACTS ME OFTEN.

AND THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS POSITION.

I'VE MET WITH EVERY SINGLE...

PROVIDER IN THE COMMUNITY AND EVERY SINGLE ONE IS IN FAVOR OF THIS POSITION BUT THEY GET MONEY TO DO IT THE CITY DOES NOT I UNDERSTAND THAT DOUG BUT WHO ELSE IS GOING TO MAKE THEM COME TO THE TABLE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AS THEY SHOULD WE SHOULD HAVE TO MAKE THEM COME TO THE TABLE TO MAKE THEIR NON-PROFIT MORE SUCCESSFUL IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING WE NOW HAVE TO HOLD THEIR HAND AND SAY OH THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS NEED TO DO BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT DOING IT WELL ENOUGH SOMETIMES WE DO WE DO IT FOR ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS.

WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT GETTING SOME PARAMETERS PUT IN PLACE.

I KNOW EVERYTHING'S BEEN REALLY BUSY, BUT ALONG WITH THIS, THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEVER REALLY GOT TO QUITE FINISH BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A HEAVY LIFT FOR LEGAL TO TRY AND WORK OUT SOME OF THE PARAMETERS THERE.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN CONJUNCTION WITH COUNTY HEALTH? SHOULD THIS BE A CITY, COUNTY, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M JUST TOSSING IT OUT THERE.

IS IT SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE JUST, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE KIND OF COMING TOGETHER, IS IT SOMETHING...

THIS PERSON WOULD REPRESENT THE CITY.

SURE.

IS THERE A COUNTY COUNTERPART TO THAT? YES, THEY JUST HIRED SOMEBODY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT THE SAME.

THAT'S GOING TO BE UNDERNEATH THAT LAW ARM OF THINGS.

RIGHT.

SO I'M SAYING MAYBE LIKEWOOD COUNTY I DON'T KNOW I'M JUST TALKING I I FEEL I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ASK THE SAME QUESTION THAT WE JUST THAT I ASKED LAST TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT AN AD TO STAFF DO WE HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN? HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS HERE? WHAT DO WE TRULY GET FROM THIS? WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL COSTS? DOES THE PAY GRADE MAKE SENSE? WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.

YEAH, WE GENERALLY DON'T DO A BUSINESS PLAN FOR AN AD.

AND SO...

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE HAD...

THE LAST ADD TO STAFF, I SAID, EVEN IF I WANTED TO ADD A TELLER AT THE BANK, I'VE GOT TO HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN.

I CAN'T JUST WALK IN THERE AND SAY, I WANT TO PUT A NEW BODY IN HERE.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A REASON WHY.

WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE HERE BEFORE.

YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TO ASK FOR A BUSINESS PLAN.

THAT'S TOO BAD, UNFORTUNATELY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF MADE ABOUT $168,000 BEFORE BENEFITS.

I RAN ON THIS TOPIC.

I TALKED ABOUT THIS TOPIC AT NAUSEAM.

THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE THAT THIS IS COMING TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS PERSON NEEDS TO WORK 24 HOURS A DAY ON THIS ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE CONVERSATIONS IN THE FALL WERE THE COUNCIL OR THE CITY WAS NOT AT THE TABLE.

THIS IS PUTTING THE CITY AT THE TABLE.

IN LEADING THE CONVERSATIONS AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS AND NEVER HAD A VOICE AT THE TABLE, EXCEPT FOR PASSING THE MONEY THROUGH.

WHY DON'T WE PLACE OUR PERSON WE HAVE NOW IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? WE HAVE ACCESS TO HIPAA VIOLATIONS.

THAT WOULD PUT THEM UNDER THE MEDICAL END OF THE THING, AND WE'D BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED.

I MEAN, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO FALL UNDER THE POLICE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE HOP PROGRAM LIVES.

THE HOP PROGRAM DOES, BUT SHE CAN RESPOND WITH THE HOP OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S IN THE BUDGET OUT OF THE POLICE THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED, IS THAT SHE'S MOVING INTO THAT.

JOE, WITH THIS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GIVE THEM TEETH? ASSUMING WE GO FORWARD,

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HOW DO WE GIVE THEM THE TEETH TO DO THAT? THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT TO GET THE OTHER.

IN PLACE TO IF WE DO CREATE THIS THERE'S THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING RIGHT IF THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THE THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE THE DATA WE AS I, AS THE MAYOR, WILL COME BACK AND SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND THESE PEOPLE AT THE LEVEL THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE DON'T FUND THEM.

BUT SOME OF THEM WE'RE NOT FUNDING.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

LIKE HOW DO WE, WHAT WOULD GIVE US IN THOSE CASES? WE PASS THROUGH MONEY.

WE DO PASS THROUGH STUFF, I GUESS.

I DON'T LOOK AT THAT AS FUNDING.

THAT'S JUST US BEING GOOD STEWARDS, I SUPPOSE.

WE FUND MICAH HOUSE.

WE FUND NEW VISIONS.

WE FUND PROGRAMS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE FUND THE PEER CENTER.

WE FUND.

WE FUND.

ALMOST EVERY PARTNER WE FUND HUD, WE FUND EVERYBODY.

BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT AT THE TABLE, WHY DO WE KEEP FUNDING THEM? THAT'S YOUR POINT.

SHE'S SAYING THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEONE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

SORRY, IT'S WHITNEY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, AS A PERSON WHO CAME TO THE CITY FROM A NON-PROFIT, THE NON-PROFITS HERE ARE INCREDIBLE.

THEY ARE WORKING SO HARD.

THEY ARE AT THE TABLE.

THERE IS HSAC.

YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO THE HUMAN SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS 50 NONPROFITS THAT GET TOGETHER TO TRY TO COORDINATE THEIR SERVICES AND SHARE INFORMATION.

THERE'S CARING FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, HOW CHASTITY PROBABLY GOT HOOKED UP WITH US IN THE FIRST PLACE.

BUT THEY ARE DOING THE WORK.

I THINK WHAT JILL'S SAYING IS THEY'RE AT THE TABLE AND WE ARE NOT.

WE'RE NOT THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT I KNOW NONE OF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT.

I KNOW THAT YOU ALL APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE NONPROFITS ARE DOING, THAT THEY ARE ALL WORKING VERY HARD AND THEY ARE UNDERPAID AND OVERWORKED IN A TREMENDOUS WAY.

UM, BUT I THINK WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT THEY'RE AT A TABLE THAT WE ARE NOT AT, NOT THAT THEY AREN'T WORKING TO WORK TOGETHER.

RIGHT.

AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE DATA TO COME BACK TO, TO JUSTIFY OR TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN OR DIFFERENT CHANGES LIKE YOUR CENTER THAT YOU WANT.

WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY LOOKING TO SAY, THIS WOULD BE X, THIS WOULD BE Y. WE NEED TO GO FIND FUNDING FOR A TRAUMA CENTER.

WE NEED TO GO DO THAT.

THEY HAVEN'T.

IN THAT CAPACITY, THERE'S NOT A PROVIDER THAT'S WILLING TO DO THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

AND AGAIN, THE PROVIDERS ARE SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL TO COORDINATE ALL THE DATA ACROSS FROM EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE BACK NOT ONLY WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE OTHER PROVIDERS AS WELL.

IT'S A CRUCIAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT'S MISSING.

I GUESS I AGREE WITH WHITNEY.

THEY ARE ALL DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.

THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN.

IT IS...

IT SEEMS LIKE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE CREATING A POSITION TO SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB BETTER.

OR, HEY, YOU NEED TO DO IT OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND YOU.

IT'S LIKE A THREAT.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, I DON'T THINK.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WHAT THIS PERSON IS SAYING IS A DEAL.

YOU SAID IF THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB, WE SAY WE DON'T FUND THEM.

RIGHT.

THAT'S A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, RIGHT? GRANT WRITING IS ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

LOOKING AT POLICIES, GOING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN FOCUS ON FOR PREVENTION AND HOUSING STABILIZATION AND SYSTEM COORDINATION AND WORKING WITH OMAHA AND THE COORDINATED COLLABORATION THAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

BRINGING IN THOSE THINGS SO WE'RE NOT MOVING STUFF BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE RIVER.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

I OUTLINED SEVEN DIFFERENT JUST IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND THAT'S AT AN EXTREMELY HIGH LEVEL.

WOULD THERE BE A WAY FOR SOMEONE IN THIS POSITION TO WORK IN AN EFFORT SOMEHOW TO THERE'S A POOL OF MONEY THAT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY, MOST OF WHICH I FEEL LIKE GOES TO OMAHA.

REMEMBER WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

YEAH.

THEY GET A LARGER PIECE OF THE PIE THAN WE DO.

THEY GET A LARGER PIECE OF THE PIE FOR PROPORTIONATELY, BASED OFF A POPULATION, CONSTABLE HAS A LARGER PROPORTIONAL AMOUNT OF HOMELESSNESS, BUT NOBODY IS OVER THERE ADVOCATING FOR CONSTABLE TO GET A BIGGER PIECE OF THE PIE.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE WOULD REACH? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

YEP.

IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT WHO DOES IT? I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I THINK IT SHOULD BE A...

HUNDRED AND SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS WE CAN CHANGE THE GRADE IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE GRADE WE CAN CHANGE THE GRADE AND IF WE DON'T GET ANYBODY TO APPLY WE CAN COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT BUT FOR THE PERSON THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR I'M JUST SAYING

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FROM AN OMAHA PUT THIS IN LAST YEAR AS WELL SO BASED JUST OFF OF THE METRO AREA AND WHAT SHE IS BEING TAMMY DRYER IS BEING PAID WE WENT WITH THE THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT I GUESS THANKS.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GRANT WRITING AND COUNCIL OF US GETTING A BIGGER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS, WON'T THEY SAY, LIKE, DO YOU HAVE A COUNSELOR OR DO YOU HAVE A TRAUMA PERSON? LIKE, ALL THESE THINGS THAT THE NONPROFITS CURRENTLY HAVE OR THEY'RE IN NEED OF, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THOSE RESOURCES.

YOU KNOW, I LISTEN TO BRANDY COME IN AND SHE SAYS ALL THE TIME, LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.

SHE SAID SHE WATCHED A GUY DIE DOWN THERE.

WELL.

THE GUY OD'D ON DRUGS AND PASSED AWAY, THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE.

NOBODY WANTS THAT.

BUT IF WE'RE APPLYING FOR THESE THINGS, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING OF THE NONPROFITS, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

THERE'S DIFFERENT GRANTS, ROGER, THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT THE PARTNERS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR.

AND SO IN THAT CASE, IT WOULDN'T BE, DO YOU HAVE A COUNSELOR ON STAFF OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IT WOULD BE, I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE STRUGGLING IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

TO THE PARTNERS THEMSELVES.

AND THAT'S COMING FROM NOT ONLY THE STATE, BUT FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL.

OKAY, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT CAN WE, I THINK THE HOP PROGRAM IS DOING AMAZING, AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE US TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.

I THINK WE HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME ONLINE ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING AROUND IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE VOICED OUR FRUSTRATIONS IN THE FALL AS A COUNCIL THAT THE CITY WAS NOT AT THE TABLE.

THIS SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.

TONY, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD OR NO? I SAW YOU STAND UP AND THEN YOU KIND OF CHANGED YOUR MIND.

I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THRESHOLD IS THE GROUP ORGANIZATION THAT GETS FEDERAL DOLLARS.

GIVEN TO OUR AREA.

IT'S NOT GRANTED TO DOUGLAS COUNTY OR POTTAWATOMIE COUNTY OR COUNCIL BLUFFS FOR OMAHA, IT GOES TO THRESHOLD, AND THEN THRESHOLD IS THE ONE THAT DIVVIES IT OUT.

AND I MET WITH THEM IN THE FALL.

I REVIEWED ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS AND DATA.

AND WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS THAT AT COUNCIL BLUFFS, FOR OUR AREA, WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE 50% OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION ON OUR SIDE.

AND WE GET 10%, APPROXIMATELY, OF THE FUNDING THAT COMES IN FROM THE FEDS TO DEAL WITH IT.

REST OF THAT YOU KNOW SO THE RIVER I THINK IS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE ARE NATURALLY DRAWN TO ON BOTH SIDES.

I MEAN, YOU SEE THE HOMELESS POPULATION REALLY CONCENTRATED ALONG THE RIVER ON OUR SIDE AND THEIR SIDE AND WITH THE BOB AND THE ABILITY TO JUST GET BACK AND FORTH OVER THE RIVER.

WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING.

MUCH OF OURS IS GREEN SPACE OR FOREST OR WHATEVER, WHEREAS THEIRS IS DOWNTOWN OMAHA.

IT'S DEVELOPED.

YOU CAN'T PITCH A TENT ON CONCRETE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN, BUT WE HAVE THE SPACE.

YOU EVEN THOUGH COUNCIL BLUFFS MAKES UP A SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER PORTION OF THE METRO AREA, FOR HOMELESSNESS, WE ARE DEALING WITH 50% OF THAT POPULATION.

IF NOT MORE.

YEAH.

SO WE HAVE AN OUTSIZED NEED COMPARED TO OMAHA TO REALLY ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THEY CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LOST OVER THERE, WHEREAS OVER HERE IT'S VERY VISIBLE ALL THE TIME.

BUT ANYWAYS, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER OF WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM AND WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WITH MAYOR WALSH SAT DOWN WITH THRESHOLD, AS WELL AS TARA SLEVIN AND PEOPLE WITH METHODIST WHO SERVE ON CARING FOR OUR COMMUNITIES TO KIND OF HAVE SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY COULD BE DOING, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S GAPS IN THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING THAT STUCK OUT IS.

MAN, WE'RE DEALING WITH 50% OF THE POPULATION AND WE'RE GETTING 10% OF THE FUNDING.

THAT WAS A PROBLEM.

IT IS.

ROGER, THANKS FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

DO WHAT? OKAY.

OH, THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

SORRY, ROGER.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? OKAY.

MOVING ON THEN, ANY OTHER 9ABC, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON PERMITS AND CANCELLATIONS? AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY, WHEN THEY HAVE THESE PARTIES AND WE ALLOW THEM TO GO TO A CERTAIN LENGTH, WE DO NOT HAVE TO NOTE THEM, CORRECT? NO, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO GO TO THE TIME THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

YOU CAN CHANGE THE TIME.

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YOU CAN SAY.

BUT LET'S SAY WE DID, YOU KNOW, ONE I'D DONE AT 10 O'CLOCK.

NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED THAT ANYTHING IS HAPPENING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME WE SET.

SO IF THEY GO TO ONE, SOMEONE CALLS, NO ONE'S GIVING THEM A HEADS UP.

THE TRICKY PART, LIKE THIS ONE, IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE RIGHT BEHIND YOU AND IN FRONT OF YOU, AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BACKYARD.

SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, BE NICE AND GIVE THEM A HEADS UP.

HOPEFULLY THEY'RE NICE ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD LET THEIR NEIGHBORS JUST KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON.

INTERESTING DEAL.

THAT'S AN AWFUL LATE PARTY FOR BEING LOUD IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE HERE WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.

TWO WEEKS AGO, SAM IRWIN PASSED AWAY ON APRIL 8TH AT THE AGE OF 83.

SAM WAS A LIFELONG MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, A GRADUATE OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, A PROUD VETERAN OF THE U.S.

MARINE CORPS.

HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY FROM 60 TO 64, AND THE RECOGNITION HE RECEIVED FOR HIS EXEMPLARY CONDUCT REFLECTED THE SAME DEDICATION AND INTEGRITY HE LATER BROUGHT TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

FOLLOWING THE MILITARY SERVICE, SAM BUILT A CAREER WITH THE UP RAILROAD, WHERE HE SERVED FOR 35 YEARS.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE RETIRING AS A SENIOR SPECIAL AGENT AND INSTRUCTOR.

HIS COMMITMENT TO SAFETY, LEADERSHIP, AND MENTORSHIP CARRIED INTO HIS YEARS SERVING AS A CONSTABLE'S MAYOR IN 1987, AS WELL AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM 88 TO 95.

SAM WAS DEEPLY CIVIC-MINDED AND GAVE BACK TO HIS COMMUNITY IN COUNTLESS WAYS, SUPPORTING EFFORTS LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, FIRST BAPTIST FOOD BANK, MOM'S PLACE.

HE WAS ALSO AN AVID BLOOD DONOR OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.

HIS ROLE, HE PLAYED A ROLE IN PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT HELPED SHAPE OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S BROADWAY CLEANUP PROGRAM AND CONTRIBUTED TO LOCAL RECREATION, EDUCATION, AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION EFFORTS.

TO SAM'S FAMILY, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

HE WAS A VERY AMAZING PERSON.

HE ALWAYS LOOKED FOR THE BEST IN PEOPLE.

HE WAS A PERSON WHO WANTED NOT ONLY THE VERY BEST FOR HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS, BUT ALSO HIS COMMUNITY.

SAM WILL BE GREATLY MISSED, AND HIS LEGACY OF SERVICE, KINDNESS, AND BELIEF IN OTHERS WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN, AND HIS IMPACT ON CONSTABLE S WILL CONTINUE TO BE FELT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

ALL RIGHT.

AND I WILL NOW TAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO ACCEPT SESSION.

SO MOVED.

EXECUTIVE SESSION.

EXECUTIVE SESSION, EXCUSE ME.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE ROLL CALL AS PEOPLE ARE EXITING HERE.

DOUG RUE? YES.

ROGER SANDOW? AYE.

COLE BUTTON? AYE.

JOE DISALVO? AYE.

STEVE GORMAN? AYE.

OKAY, WE'LL WAIT JUST A SECOND TO START UNTIL EVERYONE LEAVES.

[1) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

IT IS 7 O'CLOCK.

IF YOU ARE WILLING AND ABLE, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE,

[2) CALL TO ORDER]

WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE TO ALL.

AND I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE

[3) CITIZENS REQUEST TO BE HEARD]

EXCEPT FOR ROGER SANDOW.

HE IS TRAVELING FOR WORK.

FIRST UP IS OUR CITIZENS REQUEST TO BE HEARD.

THIS IS PREVIOUSLY WAS DONE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

THIS IS THE TIME IF A CITIZEN HAS ANY CONCERN OR A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA.

JUST STEP FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WE CAN HEAR YOU AT THAT TIME.

ABSOLUTELY.

WILL YOU PLEASE HIT THE MICROPHONE SO IT TURNS GREEN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS CINDY KEPIN.

I LIVE AT 201-74 VICTORIA DRIVE, COUNCIL WEST IOWA.

IT'S IN WILSHIRE HEIGHTS OFF OF HIGHWAY 92.

I'M HERE BECAUSE OF THE WHISPERING OAKS EDITION.

I HAVE A REPORT HERE THAT I HAD DONE BY THE AGRICULTURAL DEPARTMENT IN 2000.

ON THE WATER, YOU CAN HAVE THIS COPY, I AM MORE.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

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WE NEED A MOTION.

MOTION TO ACCEPT.

IT'S EVEN FILE.

SECOND.

WE NEED A VOTE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

IT WAS AFTER THEY BUILT GREENVIEW ROAD, AND WE GOT FLOODED IN OUR HOUSE.

WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM RISEN SUN.

WE GOT 14 INCHES OF WATER IN OUR HOUSE.

COULDN'T DRAIN FAST ENOUGH, AND WE ARE ON LATERALS AND WELL.

THE LATERALS BACKED UP INTO OUR HOUSE, CONTAMINATED EVERYTHING BECAUSE THE WATER GOT SO HIGH AND IT SATURATED EVERYTHING.

BUT I WAS HERE IN 2014 AND TALKED TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE FLOW OF WATER WHEN THEY BUILT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THAT ROAD, JUST THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING.

AND IT WAS, UM...

WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GREENVIEW ESTATES.

AND I TALKED, AT THAT TIME I WAS HEARD BY MR. WATSON, AND IT WAS RESOLUTION 14-286, OCTOBER 27, 2014.

I TALKED ABOUT THE FLOW OF WATER.

GREENVIEW USED TO BE A BLACKTOP ROAD WITH GRASS AND DIRT.

WE HAD AN EASEMENT THAT CAME FROM THERE.

ALL IT WAS, UTILITY EASEMENT.

IT WASN'T A DRAINAGE DITCH.

IT WAS AN EASEMENT.

BUILT IN THE 60S.

WELL, WE HAVE SINCE PUT IN A 60-INCH CEMENT CULVERT, BUT IT'S DOING NO GOOD BECAUSE THE WATER COMES DOWN, SILT COMES DOWN.

THE DNR HAS BEEN INVOLVED.

I GOT A HOLD OF KIM REYNOLDS' OFFICE LAST WEEK AND TALKED TO HER, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE WATER RAN OVER GREENVIEW ROAD, AND MY YARD HAS GOTTEN SILT.

WE JUST GOT OUR CULVERT CLEARED OUT.

IT WAS AT LEAST 60% PACKED WITH THE SILT THAT COMES DOWN.

THEY HAVE ONE SILT CLOTH SOUTH OF GREENVIEW ROAD, AND IT IS BASICALLY BLOWN OUT, COLLAPSED, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE SILT IS BUILT UP ON EACH SIDE.

SO WE NEED SOMETHING.

IN THIS REPORT I GAVE YOU, IT SAYS BACK IN 2000 THAT WE SHOULD BUILD A CEMENT CULVERT FROM GREENVIEW ROAD.

TO CYPRESS ROAD, THREE AND A HALF FEET DEEP.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THE WATER GETS PROBABLY FIVE TO SIX FEET, IF NOT HIGHER, DEEP.

SO THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN OBSOLETE.

BACK IN 2000, IT WAS GOING TO COST OUR TWO HOME ASSOCIATIONS, ROBIN HILLS AND WILSHIRE, $350,000 TO $500,000.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON US BECAUSE THE CITY WANTS TO DEVELOP THIS.

I'VE GONE UP AND TAKEN A LOT OF HITCHERS.

BUT HE TOLD ME, HE SAYS, THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE OF THE WATER FLOW.

AND HE MENTIONED THE NATURAL WATER FLOW IS BEING CHANGED TO THE NORTH.

BRANNIGAN INDICATED THE HOA WILL HAVE COVENANTS ENFORCED TO TAKE CARE OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT TERRA HILLS DIDN'T HAVE IN PLACE.

WHITE NOTED IT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT THE ASSOCIATION MUST BE MANDATORY, NOT VOLUNTARY, AND THEY WOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE.

RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING RETENTION DRAINAGE AREAS.

ADDING A POST-CONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE, AND ACTION COULD BE TAKEN IF NEEDED.

THE DEVELOPER'S GOAL IS TO REDUCE DRAINAGE WATER FLOW WITH A REDIRECTION, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE.

BUT I ASKED WATSON THAT.

I SAID, THE WATER'S GOING TO RUN NORTH.

OH, YEAH, HE TOLD ME IT'S GOING TO RUN NORTH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO REDIRECT IT AWAY FROM US.

BUT IT DIDN'T.

AND WE HAVE ROCKS.

YEAH.

STILL IN EVERYTHING IT'S JUST A MESS TRASH CAN'T CEMENT BLOCKS COME DOWN WHERE THEY BROKE ENOUGH C MAN WE GOT BIG OLD BLOCKS DOWN IN OUR DITCHES AND I'M ALSO ON OCTOBER FOURTEENTH THE TWENTY FOURTEEN BROWN PROVIDED THE COMMISSION A LETTER FROM ALANI TALKS CHAIRMAN WEST POTTAWAMMY SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT WHICH DISCUSSED STORM WATER AND EROSION CONCERNS FOR THE PROPOSED GREENVIEW ESTATES.

STATE SUBDIVISION.

BROWN STAYED IN THE LETTER, WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY AFTER THE CASE STAFF REPORTS WERE MAILED TO THE COMMISSION.

ALSO, I HAVE BEEN GETTING REPORTS FROM THE DNR, AND ALSO THERE ARE WATER ANALYSIS THAT WERE DONE BY OLMSTED AND PERRY IN 2000, AND THE CITY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THOSE TOO.

AND ALSO, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE CHAPTER 2080, IT'S A JOINT EXERCISE OF GOVERNMENT POWERS BETWEEN YOU AND THE COUNTY WHERE WE ARE PROTECTED.

WE ARE JUST MIDDLE-INCOME

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PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN, WE HAVE 90 HOUSES IN WILSHIRE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE IN ROBIN HILLS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE ALONG THAT EASEMENT, NOBODY ELSE IN THE ASSOCIATION IS GOING TO WANT TO PAY FOR ANYTHING.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME CONTAMINATION, AND THAT'LL BE IN THE DNR REPORT.

AND WHEN I GET THOSE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'LL BE GOING TO THE CONTRACTORS AT THE WHISPERING OAKS.

BUT THE GUY CAME DOWN AND TOLD ME A WEEK AGO OR TWO WEEKS AGO THAT ONCE THEY CLEAN THESE CULVERTS OUT, WHICH THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IN 2024 BY THE DNR, THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO CLEAN THEM OUT AGAIN.

SO ALL THAT SILT COMES DOWN.

THEY ARE STOPPING IT.

YOU'VE GOT NOTHING BUT CLAY AND DIRT UP THERE.

I HAVE ALSO A REPORT FROM THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES STARTING CLEAR BACK IN 2016.

THERE'S PAGES AND PAGES OF VIOLATIONS FROM THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT UP THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I HEARD.

I'VE BEEN TO THE COUNTY, AND I'M GOING THERE TOMORROW TOO.

EVIDENTLY, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THESE CONTRACTORS.

THEY'RE JUST DUMPING ON US.

AND WE HAVE COMPUTER SEPTIC SYSTEMS, AND THEY RUN INTO THIS EASEMENT, THE DRAINAGE.

IT'S CLEAN.

THEY'RE ALL ON COMPUTERS.

THEY COST ANYWHERE FROM $28,000 TO $36,000.

WELL, WHEN THAT WATER RISES, YOU'VE GOT THESE TUBES THAT COME OUT TOWARDS THE EASEMENT, AND THE ALARMS GO OFF BECAUSE THE WATER'S BACKING BACK UP INTO THE DRAIN.

WHATEVER IS SUPPOSED TO BE DRAINED OUT, SO IT'S THROWING THOSE COMPUTER SYSTEMS ALL OFF.

SO WHAT'S THAT SPILLING OUT INTO THE DITCH? PLUS EROSION.

PEOPLE HAVE LATERALS ALL ALONG THERE.

WE HAVE LAND THAT'S MISSING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF MY TIME'S UP YET.

IT IS.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT THE BEEP WAS ABOUT.

SO THAT'S OKAY.

CAN YOU GIVE HER MY CARD, AND THEN WILL YOU CALL OR EMAIL ME TOMORROW, ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU GO TO THE COUNTY, AND LET'S SIT DOWN WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SEE WHAT, IF ANYTHING, THE CITY CAN DO.

ALL OF OUR WATER RUNS TO MOSQUITO CREEK, TOO, AND IF IT'S CONTAMINATED, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS? YEP.

HELLO, MY NAME IS BOB LIDGE.

I LIVE AT 20201 BONNIE LANE.

IT'S JUST SOUTH OF GREENVIEW.

I GET THE FIRST PART OF IT AND SHE GETS THE SECOND PART OF IT.

I COULD JUST HIT ON SOME OF THE SAME STUFF.

SOME OF THE STUFF THAT SHE DIDN'T THROW IN THERE THOUGH THAT, AND YOU GUYS WERE ALL, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN YOU, BUT YOU KNOW THE GUY THAT WAS HERE BEFORE YOU THAT KEPT LYING TO ALL OF US THIS WHOLE TIME SAYING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE BETTER.

AND THE WATER WAS GOING TO GO NORTH AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BERM FROM FRANKLIN CLEAR TO THE WATER TOWER WITH A FENCE AND WE WOULDN'T EVEN SEE ANY OF IT.

NOW THERE'S A THROUGH ROAD THAT THE WATER RUNS DOWN AND 33 DRAINS, I RODE MY BICYCLE AROUND AND COUNTED THEM, 33 DRAINS DRAIN DOWN INTO THE PORTIONING BLOCK THAT COMES UNDER GREENVIEW ROAD.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S A HOLE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS SQUARE HERE WHERE THEY HAD A SILT FENCE ACROSS.

LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S BEEN WIPED OUT FOR THREE MONTHS, AND NOBODY DOES NOTHING ABOUT IT.

WELL, WE'VE GONE TO THE COUNTY, CALLED THE COUNTY A WEEK AGO FRIDAY MORNING FROM SO MUCH MUD CAME DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S NO VEGETATION OR ANYTHING, AND ALL THEIR STORM DRAINS ARE COVERED WITH FENCE AND PIG BLANKETS.

AND SO NOTHING WENT DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CLEAN THEM.

SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY LET IT ALL RUN DOWN.

THERE WAS MUD THIS THICK.

I GOT A TON OF PICTURES IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM.

CLEAR ACROSS GREENVIEW DRIVE AND WHAT I SAID TO THE COUNTY BOARD, WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE? SOMEBODY GETTING KILLED? WHAT IF A MOTORCYCLIST OR EVEN A YOUNG KID DRIVING TO SCHOOL ON FRIDAY MORNING CAME THROUGH THERE AND HIT THAT? I EVEN, I CAN'T THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS HERE, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THE PROPORTIONING BOX THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE SEPTIC OR NOT THE SEPTIC FOR THE STORM SEWER IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE WHAT IS ALL COMING THROUGH THERE NOW BECAUSE THAT ROAD WAS NEVER GOING TO COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE TO THE NORTH.

AND NOW IT IS.

THE SAME THAT CINDY SAID, THE WATER'S NOT ALL GOING NORTH LIKE THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO.

AND THIS IS BECOMING A DISASTER FROM THE BEGINNING.

AND I THINK SHE HAS THE REPORT.

THE WATER SURVEY FROM THE BEGINNING WAS ONLY DONE TO BONNIE LANE, WHICH IS THE STREET THAT I LIVE ON.

[01:55:01]

SO ONE BLOCK OFF OF GREENVIEW DRIVE THEY DID A WATER SURVEY.

NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME BARKING, THEY HAVE COME IN, THEY HAVE A SUPER SUCKER TRUCK THAT COMES THROUGH ONCE A WEEK OR SO AND CLEANS OUT THE TUBES.

AND THAT'S DOING GREAT, BUT WHEN THAT WATER COMES THROUGH, A DITCH THAT WE USED TO MOW ACROSS IS SEVEN FOOT DEEP NOW.

AND, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN KICKING THIS CAN SINCE 2020.

AND IT'S...

CONTINUING TO GET WORSE AND CONTINUING TO GET WORSE AND DAMAGING OUR PROPERTIES.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE IT KNOWN.

I MEAN, THE SAD THING IS, LIKE SHE SAID, WE'RE JUST A SMALL GROUP, BUT WE HAVE TALKED TO AN ATTORNEY, AND THE ATTORNEY HOPES THAT WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE THROUGH THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND THE STATE WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE LEGAL ISSUES.

I MEAN, WE'RE...

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE DITCH ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE DITCH, BUT THE OTHERS AREN'T.

ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY, THOUGH, IS WHEN THE ROAD WASHES OUT, THAT'S THE WHOLE ROAD ASSOCIATION'S PROBLEM, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE DITCH.

THE ROAD AT MY HOUSE HAS GOT A SINKHOLE ABOUT THIS BIG AROUND ON ONE SIDE IN THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD, AND THE ONE KATHY LANE HAS TWO SINKHOLES THAT ARE REALLY UNSAFE FOR KIDS AND STUFF BEING AROUND.

AND IT'S ALL FROM THE WATER.

WHETHER THEY PUT THAT WATER IN THE SETTLEMENT POND AND IT COMES UP AND YOU DON'T GET IT ALL AT ONCE, IT JUST RUNS DOWN THERE AND EATS THE DITCH AWAY FOR, HELL, IT HASN'T STOPPED FOR TWO WEEKS, THE WATER HASN'T.

AND THEN THEY HAD A WATER MAIN BREAK ON SATURDAY AND FLOODED THE WHOLE THING AGAIN.

AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET SOME SATISFACTION.

THE DNR SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL THIS TIME.

I'D LOVE TO GET A CHANCE TO WALK WITH YOU.

I'VE WALKED WITH THE COUNTY BOARD NUMEROUS TIMES UP AND DOWN THAT DITCH BUT I THINK THEY'RE TONE DEAF OR SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T LIKE MY TONE BECAUSE THEY JUST UM WHEN THEY WANTED TO PUT THE NEW PROPORTIONING BOX IN GREENVIEW ROAD THEY PUT A ROAD CLOSED SIGN HERE A ROAD CLOSED SIGN HERE AND GUESS WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC WENT ON MY WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PRIVATE ROAD RIGHT ALL OF IT PAST MY STREET AND THE LINE OF GARBAGE THAT THEY GAVE ME WAS THAT WE DIDN'T DETOUR THEM THROUGH THERE.

PEOPLE CHOSE TO GO THROUGH THERE.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY.

WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO FIGHT WITH ANYBODY.

WE'VE HAD THE POLLUTION DEAL HAPPEN ONCE, AND YOU GUYS KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

WHAT THEY DO, THEY JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, SO THE NEXT COMPANY GETS THE FIRST FINE AGAIN.

INSTEAD OF GOING UP TO THE SECOND FINE LEVEL, THEY CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN IT GOES BACK TO THE FIRST FINE AGAIN.

WHAT WAS IT, $800? YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S A JOKE, BUT IT'S A LEGAL JOKE, SO THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN...

JODY'S GOING TO GIVE YOU MY CARD TOO, SO YOU CAN EMAIL ME.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME WALK IT WITH YOU AND TAKE A LOOK AT THINGS AND SPEAK WITH THE COUNTY AND, AGAIN, TALK TO OUR TEAMS HERE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ROADS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YEP.

HI.

SO MY NAME IS ABDUL.

THE ADDRESS IS 2216 27TH AVENUE.

AND, SO RECENTLY, LAST YEAR, LIKE IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, I PURCHASED A RENTAL PROPERTY, WHICH HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER AND OCTOBER, AROUND THAT MONTH.

SO OBVIOUSLY, I GOT ALL THE UTILITIES INTO MY NAME, WATERVILLE ELECTRIC AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

JUST LAST WEEK, I RECEIVED A REGISTRATION NOTICE, WHICH I HAD NO IDEA WHICH WE WERE SUPPOSED TO REGISTER.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.

SO I PURCHASED TWO PROPERTIES, 100.

SOUTH 1ST STREET AND 114 SOUTH 1ST STREET, RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

AND SO THE LETTER I RECEIVED, OBVIOUSLY REGISTRATION, NO PROBLEM.

I WILL PAY IT.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT HAS A LATE FEE, WHICH IS MORE THAN THE REGISTRATION FEE.

AND THEN I JUST RECEIVED THIS LETTER IN MY MAILBOX LAST WEEK.

I'M GOING TO STOP YOU REAL QUICK.

IN ORDER TO REQUEST YOUR LATE FEE TO BE WAIVED, YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO ME AND BE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR A HEARING FOR THAT.

SO I CAME TO YOUR OFFICE JUST TODAY.

THEY TOLD ME TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AT 7 P.M., AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

SO FOR THIS AGENDA, WE NEEDED IT 10 DAYS AGO.

SO IF YOU DROPPED

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OFF A LETTER TODAY, IT'LL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA, WHICH IS MAY 4TH. OKAY.

AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A SPOT, A HEARING SPOT, ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM.

YEAH, SO DO I JUST GIVE YOU THE LETTER AND THEN? DID YOU GIVE IT TO MY OFFICE ALREADY? NO, THEY TOLD ME TO COME TO THIS MEETING TODAY.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

OTHERWISE, IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO, BECAUSE I TALKED TO DEREK.

IF YOU HAVE A LETTER, YES, I'LL TAKE IT.

OKAY, YES, SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT ABOUT AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA? STEP FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS KATIE CHRISTENSEN.

MY ADDRESS IS 2327 RAYMOND AVENUE.

GIVE IT ONE SECOND.

HOLD ON.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU STATE THAT AGAIN? MY NAME IS KATIE CHRISTENSEN.

MY ADDRESS IS 2327 RAYMOND AVENUE, COUNCIL BLUFFS, IOWA.

AND I'M TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, ESPECIALLY THE ONE BY IOWA WESTERN.

I TRIED CALLING CHRIS GIBBONS.

I HAVEN'T YET RETURNED A CALL, BUT THERE'S JUST SOME STUFF I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT, SO I'D LIKE TO READ WHAT I WROTE.

THAT'S OKAY? YEAH.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECT LOLA BY WESTERN IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT DOES NOT REMOVE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT ALL IMPACTS WERE FULLY EVALUATED, ALL ASSUMPTIONS WERE ACCURATE, AND THAT THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE NEAR THE SCHOOLS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, ARE NOT BEING EXPOSED TO UNNECESSARY RISKS.

GIVEN THE SCALE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ITS PROXIMITY TO WHERE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN ARE EVERY DAY, I AM FORMALLY REQUESTING THAT THE CITY INITIATE IMMEDIATE OR INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF ALL PERMITS, APPROVALS, AND COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

SPECIFICALLY, I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE IMPACTS ON WATER USAGE, ELECTRICAL DEMAND, AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITY CONDITIONS WERE FULLY AND ACCURATELY ASSESSED, AND WHETHER THAT INFORMATION WAS MADE CLEARLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE APPROVALS WERE GRANTED.

IF THERE ARE ANY GAPS, OUTDATED ASSUMPTIONS, OR IMPACTS THAT WERE UNDERESTIMATED OR NOT DISCLOSED, THEN I AM ASKING THE CITY TO ISSUE A TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OR STOP WORK ORDER UNTIL THOSE ISSUES ARE FULLY ADDRESSED AND SHARED PUBLICLY.

THEY TOLD ME ON THE PHONE THAT THERE WAS NO IMPACT STUDIES ON ANYTHING, LIKE THE WATER, THE AIR, THE NOISE POLLUTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET.

HOPEFULLY MAYBE PASS MOTION TO GET THOSE STUDIES DONE.

IF CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES WITHOUT A LEVEL OF REVIEW, THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE IF OUR WATER RESOURCES ARE STRAINED, IF INFRASTRUCTURE IS PUSHED BEYOND CAPACITY, OR IF THERE ARE NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO RESIDENTS IN NEARBY SCHOOLS.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE FORMAL PROCESS TO REOPEN OR REVIEW BASED ON INCOMPLETE OR NEWLY UNDERSTOOD IMPACTS, AND WILL YOU COMMIT TONIGHT TO INITIATING THAT PROCESS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES FURTHER? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE SO FAR.

CHRIS WAS IN MEETINGS THIS AFTERNOON, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME YOU TRIED TO CALL IN, BUT HE'S BEEN IN MEETINGS BACK-TO-BACK SINCE ABOUT 1 O'CLOCK.

SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT HE GIVES YOU A CALL BACK.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC TONIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE

[4) CONSENT AGENDA]

OF THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

FIRST UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[5.A) National Drug Endangered Children Awareness Day ]

LET ME GET MY COMPUTER TO THE RIGHT PAGE.

APOLOGIES.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST ONE IS NATIONAL DRUG ENDANGERED CHILDREN AWARENESS DAY.

SO THIS IS FOR ABIGAIL HERE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.

BUT WITH THE CITY OF COUNCIL PLUS PROCLAMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, WHEREAS APRIL 22, 2026 IS DECLARED NATIONAL DRUG ENDANGERED CHILDREN AWARENESS DAY, AND WHEREAS DRUG-ENDANGERED CHILDREN ARE AT RISK OF ABUSE AND NEGLECT DUE TO THEIR PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS' ILLEGAL DRUG USE, POSSESSION, MANUFACTURING, CULTIVATION, OR DISTRIBUTION, AND WHEREAS CHILDREN WHOSE CARETAKER'S SUBSTANCE MISUSE INTERFERES WITH HIS OR HER ABILITY TO PARENT AND PROVIDE A SAFE AND NURTURING ENVIRONMENT CAN ALSO BE AT RISK.

AND WHEREAS WITH INTERVENTION, DRUG-ENDANGERED CHILDREN CAN MOVE FROM A RISK TO A RESILIENCY.

AND WHEREAS RESILIENCY CAN BREAK GENERATIONAL CYCLES OF DRUG AND CHILD ABUSE AND CAN CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF A CHILD'S LIFE.

AND WHEREAS ALL CITIZENS IN IOWA CAN PLAY A ROLE IN REDUCING RISK AND BUILD RESILIENCY, ENSURING ALL CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY GROW AND DEVELOP SAFELY IN A DRUG-FREE ENVIRONMENT.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, JILL SHUDAK, MAYOR OF CONSUL BLUSS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 22, 2026 AS NATIONAL DRUG ENDANGERED CHILDREN AWARENESS DAY IN THE CITY OF CONSUL BLUSS, IOWA, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS, ORGANIZATIONS,

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AND COMMUNITIES TO JOIN IN RAISING AWARENESS AND TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT.

AND SUPPORT DRUG ENDANGERED CHILDREN.

LET US UNITE IN OUR EFFORTS TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF ABUSE, NEGLECT, AND ENSURING A BRIGHTER, HEALTHIER FUTURE FOR ALL CHILDREN IN IOWA.

WITH THE SEAL OF THE CITY, I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM CHILL SHOOT ACT.

DO YOU WANT TO COME? YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO MY NAME IS ABIGAIL OSTERHAUS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED MY ADDRESS, BUT I WORK AT HEARTLAND FAMILY SERVICE 515 EAST SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, WE WERE AT A DEC CONFERENCE TODAY ACTUALLY, SO I HAVE SOME INTERESTING STATISTICS THAT I FEEL LIKE VALIDATE WHY WE NEED TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO NATIONALLY ABOUT 38.6% OF FOSTER CARE REMOVALS INVOLVE SUBSTANCE USE, RIGHT, AND THAT'S THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

IN IOWA, 60 TO 70% OF THE WELFARE CASES INVOLVE SUBSTANCE USE, WHETHER THAT'S PARENTAL SUBSTANCE USE THAT LEADS YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE DOING DRUGS AND THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN, ALL OF THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF THE CASES INVOLVING SUBSTANCE MISUSE.

AND WE ALSO GOT TO HEAR FROM A DRUG-INDUCED CHILD HERSELF AND HER LIVED EXPERIENCE TODAY.

AND ONE THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THAT SHE SAID SHE WAS FORCED TO BE RESILIENT, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK ONE THING THAT I WANT TO DO WITH OUR COALITION IS WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE KIDS TO DO THINGS, RIGHT? WE AS A COMMUNITY.

COME TOGETHER.

WE HAVE STAKEHOLDERS FROM MANY DIFFERENT SECTORS, A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE ALWAYS WANT MORE.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE THEM.

WE WANT TO BUILD THIS RESILIENCE AS A COMMUNITY SO THAT IT CAN BE LASTING AND MAKE A BIGGER DIFFERENCE.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL FINISH WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[5.B) Brick Days Proclamation ]

OUR SECOND PROCLAMATION IS GOING TO BRICK DAYS.

AND WE HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM BRICK DAYS HERE AS WELL AS MEDIA.

SO FROM THE CITY OF COUNCIL PLUS IOWA, OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, WHERE AS LINCOLN AND OMAHA LEGO USERS GROUP, FOUNDED IN 2012, IS A COMMUNITY OF LEGO ENTHUSIASTS DEDICATED TO CREATIVE COLLABORATION AND SHARING OF THEIR PASSION FOR BUILDING, AND WHEREAS...

THE LOGO, LOW LUG, THANK YOU, WHEREAS LOW LUG HOSTED ITS FIRST LEGO FAN EXPOSITION KNOWN AS BRICK DAYS IN LINCOLN, NEBRASKA IN 2017, ESTABLISHING A REGIONAL TRADITION CELEBRATING IMAGINATION, DESIGN, AND INNOVATION, AND WHEREAS IN 2018, LOW LUG...

EXPANDED UPON THE SUCCESS OF ITS INAUGURAL EVENT BY RELOCATING BRICK DAYS TO THE MID-AMERICA CENTER IN CONSUL BLAS, IOWA, WHERE IT HAS SINCE GROWN TO A PREMIER REGIONAL ATTRACTION, AND WHERE BRICK DAYS HAS BEEN HELD AT THE MID-AMERICA CENTER FOR SEVEN OF THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, DRAWING THOUSANDS OF ATTENDEES ANNUALLY AND WELCOMING VISITORS FROM ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND BEYOND.

AND WHEREAS THE EVENT SHOWCASES THE IMPRESSIVE LEGO CREATIONS, FOSTERING EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES IN ENGINEERING, DESIGN, AND PROBLEM SOLVING, AND INSPIRING CREATIVITY AMONG PARTICIPANTS OF ALL AGES, AND WHEREAS BRICK DAYS REFLECTS THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF DEDICATED VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS AND HIGHLIGHTS THE VALUE OF CROSS-STATE COLLABORATION, WITH A NEBRASKA-BASED GROUP CHOOSING TO MAKE CONSUL BLUFFS IOWA'S LONG-STANDING HOST CITY, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CONSUL BLUFFS IS PROUD TO SERVE AS THE HOME OF THIS UNIQUE AND FAMILY-FRIENDLY EVENT, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY, TOURISM, AND COMMUNITY VIBRANCY, AND WHEREAS BRICK DAYS WILL BE HELD AT THE MID-AMERICA CENTER AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THIS COMING SATURDAY, APRIL 25, 2026, AND SUNDAY, APRIL 26, 2026.

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NOW, THEREFORE, I, JILL SHUDAK, MAYOR OF CONSUL BLAST, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 25TH AND APRIL 26TH, 2006 AS BRICK DAYS IN THE CITY OF CONSUL BLAST, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO JOIN TOGETHER IN CELEBRATING THIS UNIQUE, FAMILY-FRIENDLY EVENT, WELCOMING VISITORS TO CONSUL BLAST, AND RECOGNIZING THE POSITIVE IMPACT BRICK DAYS HAS ON OUR COMMUNITY.

WITH THE SEAL OF THE CITY, I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM, MAYOR OF SHUDAK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS DANIEL SCHMIDT.

I'M THE OWNER OF BRICK DAYS AND ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS.

AND I WON'T SPEAK A LOT, BUT I DO WANT TO MAYBE IMPRESS UPON YOU FOLKS THAT THE LINCOLN AND OMAHA LEGO USER GROUP IS A COLLECTION OF PEOPLE WHO JUST AD HOC STARTED A CLUB.

A LUG, WHICH IS THE L-U-G PART OF IT, IS AN OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED CLUB BY LEGO.

AND THEY GET SPECIAL BENEFITS, AND THERE'S A HUGE PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

AND IT'S A PRETTY SPECIAL THING.

ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAVELING FROM DENMARK TO VISIT BRICK DAYS THIS WEEKEND BECAUSE COUNCIL BLUFFS AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, THEY SHOW UP AT A MUCH HIGHER PROPENSITY AND A MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT THAN ANY OTHER OF THE LEGO FAN EVENTS IN THE NATION.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE LOVE, COUNCIL BLUFFS.

WE LOVE AND ARE REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTERS OF US.

I WANTED TO HAVE BRIAN, WHO'S PRESIDENT OF THE LULUG, TALK SUPER QUICK.

THANK YOU, DAN.

HELLO, MY NAME IS BRIAN HURT.

I LIVE IN LINCOLN, NEBRASKA, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF LULUG.

THANK YOU, MAYOR SHUDAK AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO JOIN US.

LET THE RECORD SHOW.

THE PAINED LOOK ON YOUR MAYOR'S FACE.

FOR ANY OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHO CAN ATTEND, WE HAVE A TRADITION OF INVITING OUR VIP GUESTS TO BE GUEST JUDGES, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TROPHY THAT I'LL SHOW TO THE GROUP AS WELL.

THIS IS THE CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS BRICK DAYS AWARD.

YOU'LL NOTICE, ALTHOUGH THERE IS THE STATE SHAPE ON THIS TROPHY, IT IS NOT YOUR STATE.

THERE WAS A TIME IN OUR HISTORY WHEN THIS WAS CALLED NEBRASKA BRICK DAYS.

AND IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR US DOING THIS IN IOWA TO REALIZE THAT THAT WAS THE WRONG NAME FOR OUR EVENT.

BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN NEBRASKA.

AND OUR BEING HERE AND HAVING THIS RECOGNITION REALLY DEMONSTRATES THAT.

SO PLEASE, EVERYONE WILL BE SET UP BY FRIDAY EVENING.

AND SO IF YOU CAN COME ON SATURDAY TO WALK THROUGH, YOU'LL BE OUR GUEST.

YOU CAN JUDGE AS A GROUP.

OR IF JUST ONE OF YOU CAN COME, HOWEVER...

YOU WISH TO DO WITH THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO BESTOW THIS AWARD THAT WILL MEAN A LOT TO WHOEVER GETS IT.

DON'T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT THE JUDGING CRITERIA.

THE SOLE CRITERION IS IT'S YOUR FAVORITE.

IT BEST EXEMPLIFIES THE SPIRIT OF COUNCIL BLUFFS.

PLEASE REACH OUT TO DAN.

HE'LL GET YOU ALL ORGANIZED.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE.

THIS TRULY IS AN HONOR SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS IN LINCOLN AND OMAHA AND OUTSTATE NEBRASKA AND ACROSS THE RIVER RIGHT HERE IN IOWA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DAN, WILL YOU SEND JODY AN EMAIL TO GET TO US TO REACH OUT AND SEE WHAT I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO COME TO YOUR EVENT, BUT I'VE GOT TO CHECK WITH UPPER MANAGEMENT AND SEE WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

BUT MY KIDS WOULD LOVE IT.

COOL.

[6.A) Resolution 26-148 Resolution approving the plans and specifications for the Avenue B Reconstruction, Phase 2. Project # PW26-13]

OKAY, UP NEXT WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THOSE.

SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS RESOLUTION 26-1-148, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PLANS

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AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR AVENUE B RECONSTRUCTION PHASE 2.

IS PROOF OF PUBLICATION ON RECORD? YES, IT IS.

ANY WRITTEN PROTESTS RECEIVED? NONE RECEIVED.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

TO APPROVE? SECOND.

WHICHEVER.

[6.B) Resolution 26-149 Resolution authorizing the City to apply for FY2027 State Transit Assistance through the Iowa Department of Transportation.    ]

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-149, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO APPLY FOR FY27 STATE TRANSIT ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

IS PROOF OF PUBLICATION ON RECORD? YES, IT IS.

ANY WRITTEN PROTESTS RECEIVED? NONE RECEIVED.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADJUST TO COUNSEL ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

[6.C) Resolution 26-150 Resolution granting final plat approval of a four-lot minor residential subdivision to be known as Hillside Apartments and being legally described as a replat of Lots 1 and 2, Bethany Lutheran Home and part of Lots 3 and 4, Auditor’s Subdivision of the SE1/4 NW1/4 of Section 19-75-43.  Location: Undeveloped land located west of North Broadway St. and south of 2444 North Broadway St. SUB-26-006]

SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-150, A RESOLUTION GRANTING FINAL PLAT APPROVAL OF A FOUR-LOT MINOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS HILLSIDE APARTMENTS AND BEING LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS A REPLAT OF LOTS 1 AND 2, BETHANY LUTHERAN HOME, AND PARTS OF LOT 3 AND 4, AUDITOR SUBDIVISION.

OF THE SOUTHEAST 1 4TH NORTHWEST 1 4TH SECTION OF 19-75-43 LOCATION UNDEVELOPED LAND LOCATED WEST OF NORTH BROADWAY STREET AND SOUTH OF 2444 NORTH BROADWAY STREET IS PROOF OF PUBLICATION A RECORD YES IT IS ANY WRITTEN PROTEST RECEIVED NONE RECEIVED ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER SEEING NONE IS THERE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND IS THERE A DISCUSSION ALL THOSE

[6.D) Public Hearing Only (No Council Action) Status of funded activities for the City of Council Bluffs Community Development Block Grant COVID-19 Assistance.   ]

IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

WE HAVE A NO ACTION ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.

IT'S THE STATUS OF FUNDED ACTIVITIES FOR THE CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BROCKLAND, COVID-19 ASSISTANCE.

THIS IS REQUIRED FOR US TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE SPOKE ABOUT IT IN STUDY SESSION, BUT THERE IS NO ACTION TO TAKE ON THIS MATTER.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER? COUNCIL, ANY UPDATES? WE SPOKE ABOUT IT EARLIER.

EVERYTHING'S GONE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING IT DONE, AND WE'VE BEEN REASSURED THAT THAT WILL

[6.E) Resolution 26-151 Resolution to dispose of City-owned property described as Lot 47 and the south 1/2 of Lot 48, Johnsons Addition.  Location: Immediately south of 323 Benton Street. 26-0005-PZOTB]

HAPPEN IN A TIMELINE ALLOTTED BY LAW.

YES, AND THEY NEED TO BE SPENT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

YEP.

FANTASTIC.

OUR NEXT RESOLUTION THEN IS 26-151, A RESOLUTION TO DISPOSE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT LOTS 47 AND SOUTH OF -1 SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

[6.F) Resolution 26-152 Resolution to release permanent and perpetual easements granted for utility purposes across the previously vacated east/west alley in Block 11 and vacated South 30th Street in Block 10, all in Bryant and Clark's subdivision.  Location: 3036 2nd Ave MIS-26-002          ]

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-152, A RESOLUTION TO RELEASE PERMANENT AND PERPETUAL EASEMENTS GRANTED FOR UTILITY PURPOSES ACROSS THE PREVIOUS VACANT EAST-WEST ALLEY IN BLOCK 11 AND VACATED SOUTH 30TH STREET IN BLOCK 10, ALL IN BRYANT AND CLARK.

SUBDIVISION.

IS PROOF OF PUBLICATION ON RECORD? YES, IT IS.

ANY WRITTEN PROTESTS RECEIVED? NONE RECEIVED.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND.

THAT WAS JOE.

SORRY, MY THING WAS OFF.

ANYONE, ANY DISCUSSION?

[7.A) Ordinance 6676 Ordinance to amend Chapter 4.20 Animal Control by amending Section 4.20.020 "Definitions-Animal Control"; Section 4.20.030 "Cruel Treatment of Animals Prohibited"; Section 4.20.050 "Animals at Large"; Section 4.20.060 "Impoundment" and enacting new Section 4.20.075 to be entitled "Management of Cat Population Pursuant to Trap-Neuter-Return; Permitted Acts" and by repealing Section 4.20.272 "Stray Cats". ]

SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, ORDINANCE 6676, AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTERS 4.20, ANIMAL CONTROL, BY AMENDING SECTIONS OF 4.20.020, DEFINITIONS OF ANIMAL CONTROL, AND SECTIONS 4.20.030, CRUELTY TREATMENT OF ANIMAL PROHIBITED, SECTIONS 4.20.050, ANIMALS AT LARGE, SECTIONS FOUR DOT TWO ZERO DOT ZERO SIX ZERO IMPOUNDMENT IN ENACTING A NEW SECTION 4.20.075 TO BE ENTITLED MANAGEMENT OF CAT POPULATION PURSUANT TO TRAP, NEUTER, RETURN PERMITTED ACTS BY REPEALING SECTION 4.20.272, STRAY CATS.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND.

I WOULD...

LIKE THIS TO GO TO THREE READINGS BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT

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OF STUFF THAT I BROUGHT UP THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND LOOKED AT BY BOTH LEGAL AND THE FOLKS FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES.

BUT WE HAVEN'T LEFT THE CHAMBERS.

I MEAN, SO WE HAVEN'T, THERE'S BEEN NO, I MEAN, MIMI SAID, I CAN GET YOU THIS BEFORE WE START.

WE WERE BUSY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T WANT EVERYONE'S EFFORTS TO DIE ON THE VINE, BUT.

BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS, BUT I'M NOT GUARANTEEING THAT IN TWO WEEKS I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING, I GUESS.

AND FOR THE RECORD IN THE STUDY SESSION, THE HUMANE SOCIETY WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY HAD A PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENT.

THEY ARE PLANNING, THEY HAVE THIS ON THEIR CALENDAR TO BE AT THE NEXT MEETING TO ANSWER THE WAY HOW IT WOULD BE WORKED IN THE COMMUNITY.

JAKE SPOKE TO THIS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE AND THE WORDS THAT WERE USED TO IMPLEMENT, BUT WE WOULD NEED THEM TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICY.

DO WE WANT TO TABLE THIS THEN, OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST MOVE IT TO THE SECOND READING? WELL, THAT'S AN OPTION TOO, I GUESS.

WELL, WE'LL HAVE SECOND READING NEXT TIME AND THEN THIRD READING AFTER, SO I THINK THREE MINUTES.

CORRECT.

I WOULD JUST ASK THAT USUALLY, HISTORICALLY, IF THERE'S NO CONTENTION FROM THE AUDIENCE, BUT I'M...

LET IT BE KNOWN NOW I'D LIKE TO GO TO FULL DISCUSSION, I GUESS.

DEFULTERY READING? AT LEAST, YEAH, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT GIVES US NEXT.

WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TIME TO DO ANY WORK SINCE WE HAD THE STUDY SESSION, RIGHT? I JUST BADGERED OUR LEGAL TEAM FOR A WHILE LIKE A JERK WITH MY PARANOID QUESTIONS.

I CAN'T A LITTLE BIT.

I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH BEFORE WE HAD THE MEETING BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE COMING UP.

I SPOKE TO OUR PREVIOUS ANIMAL CONTROL.

THEY WERE NOT FOR THIS.

THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE, FEELING IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY MAYBE EVEN WORSE FOR THE ANIMALS THAN WHAT WE WERE THINKING.

AND I GET IT.

THERE'S DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THAT, DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

BUT SURE.

THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS I THINK THAT WERE STILL HANGING OUT THERE, AT LEAST FOR MY TAKE RIGHT NOW, THOUGH I WOULD HAVE TO BE A NO BECAUSE I'M GOING TO RELY ON THEIR EXPERTISE.

THIS IS NOT MY WHEELHOUSE, BUT I'LL GO WITH WHAT THEIR EXPERTISE IS, AND THEY'RE SAYING JUST KEEP WHAT WE HAVE, AND SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION I'M GOING TO GO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

[8.A) Resolution 26-123 (continued from 3-23-26)Resolution accepting the bid of Carley Construction, LLC for the Mid-America Center Parking Lots Rehab, Phase 6. Project # BM26-01]

AYE.

OPPOSED? NAY.

MOTION CARRIES.

TO SECOND READING.

MADAM CLERK, RESOLUTIONS.

RESOLUTION 26-123, A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF CARLY CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR THE MID-AMERICA CENTER PARKING LOT REHAB PHASE.

MOTION TO TABLE TO LATER DATE.

YEP.

MAY 4TH.

STEVE TOOK MY PAPER.

MAY 4TH, 2026.

SORRY.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT YOUR PAPER? OKAY.

SECOND.

DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

[8.B) Resolution 26-153 Resolution authorizing the sale and transfer of the internet domain names "Blinkwifi.org" and "UnleashCB.com" to the Council Bluffs Convention & Visitors Bureau, doing business as Unleash Council Bluffs, for nominal consideration. ]

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

WE WILL TABLE THIS TO MAY 4TH.

SORRY.

RESOLUTION 26-153, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SALE AND TRANSFER OF THE INTERNET DOMAIN NAMES BLINKWIFI.ORG AND UNLEASHCB.COM TO THE COUNCIL OF CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU DURING BUSINESS AS UNLEASHCB FOR NOMINAL CONSIDERATION.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

[8.C) Resolution 26-154 Resolution approving and adopting an ADA Digital Accessibility Policy and Transition Plan for the City of Council Bluffs, Iowa]

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-154, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND ADOPTING AN ADA DIGITAL ACCESSIBILITY POLICY AND TRANSITION PLAN FOR THE CITY OF COUNCIL BLUFFS.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

OH, GO AHEAD, JOE.

IT JUST BRINGS US UP TO.

TO WHAT THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES WERE AS OF LAST WEEK, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY GAVE US ANOTHER YEAR.

AND IN REFERENCE TO OUR PREVIOUS, AS I STATED EARLIER, IF ANYONE MISSED IT, NOW THAT WE'RE PUSHING THOSE OFF TO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND LETTING THEM HAVE THAT, WE DON'T ACTUALLY CONTROL THOSE SITES.

THE VISITORS' CONVENTION BUREAU DOES, SO THEY'LL BE THE ONES THAT CAN DEAL WITH GETTING THAT ALL UP TO CODE.

BUT JUST BRINGING EVERYTHING IN LINE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND FOR THE RECORD, ASHLEY CRUZ HAS BEEN LEADING THIS INITIATIVE WITH THE HELP OF OUR IT TEAMS. AMAZING WORK.

THERE IS A LARGER GROUP FROM THE STATE OF IOWA THAT CONVENES REGULARLY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO HIT THE DEADLINE THAT WAS COMING UP.

WE ARE FAR, WAY AHEAD OF EVERY

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OTHER ENTITY THAT'S OUT THERE TO THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HIT THE NEW DEADLINE.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THE YEAR JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS UP TO DATE.

AND THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THAT NEW WEB PAGE AND WEB CONTENT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO STAY ADA COMPLIANT.

SO THANK YOU TO ASHLEY.

THANK YOU TO ALL THE TEAMS THAT WERE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

THERE WAS ALSO A TON OF TESTING THAT WAS DONE THAT KIM LED THE TESTING FROM THOSE INITIATIVES.

SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY BUSY ON THIS PROJECT.

[8.D) Resolution 26-155 Resolution approving the bid of Compass Utility, LLC for the East Manawa Sewer Rehab, Phase XIV.  Project # PW26-09    ]

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-155, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BID OF COMPASS UTILITY LLC FOR THE EAST MANAWA SEWER REHAB PHASE 14. 14, YEAH.

I HAD TO ADD IT UP.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

OH, SORRY, SECOND.

[8.E) Resolution 26-156 Resolution authorizing accepting the work of Tab Construction at the East Manawa Subdivision Phase I Infrastructure project and authorizing the Finance Department to issue a city check in the amount of $112,876.80.]

THERE WAS DISCUSSION.

I WAS GOING TO, JILL.

SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-156, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTING THE WORK OF TAB CONSTRUCTION AT THE EAST MANAWA SUBDIVISION PHASE 1 INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A CITY CHECK IN THE AMOUNT OF $112,876.80.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? JUST FOR ANYBODY OUT THERE, THIS IS THE ROAD FOR THE FIRST ROAD FOR THE MANOA, EAST MANOA SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

SO THIS IS PAYING THE REMAINDER OF THE WORK FOR THE ROAD THAT WAS PUT IN.

DROVE ON IT EARLIER.

IT WAS REALLY NICE.

[8.F) Resolutions 26-157, 26-158, 26-159 and 26-160 Resolution 26-157 supporting the submission of an Iowa Economic Development Authority (IEDA) application to the Workforce Housing Tax Credit Program by 34th and 1st Holdings, LLC.   Resolution 26-158 supporting the submission of an Iowa Economic Development Authority (IEDA) application to the Workforce Housing Tax Credit Program by Jilla Development.   Resolution 26-159 supporting the submission of an Iowa Economic Development Authority (IEDA) application to the Workforce Housing Tax Credit Program by Arbor Creek, LLC.   Resolution 26-160 supporting the submission of an Iowa Economic Development Authority (IEDA) application to the Workforce Housing Tax Credit Program by Lockwood Development at E Manawa Subdivision.    ]

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

SO RESOLUTIONS 26, 157, 158, 159, AND 160 ARE ALL.

THE SAME WILL DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

RESOLUTION 26-157, SUPPORTING THE SUBMISSION OF AN IOWA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY APPLICATION TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM FOR 34TH AND 1ST HOLDINGS LLC.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION, DO WE WANT TO READ THEM ALL AND THEN...

HAVE A DISCUSSION OR DO WE WANT TO DO THEM ONE AT A TIME? HOW WOULD WE LIKE TO DO THIS? ONE AT A TIME PLEASE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO.

THEY ALL KIND OF TIE TOGETHER IN SOME RESPECTS.

YOU GUYS PROBABLY WANT THE DISCUSSION OF ALL OF THEM BEFORE YOU VOTE ON EACH OF THEM.

IS THAT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO, IS IF WE COULD MOTION.

MY CONCERN WAS JUST THAT WE DON'T GROUP THEM ALL TOGETHER.

WE NEED TO VOTE SEPARATELY.

YES.

SO NOW THAT WE'VE, IT'S UNDER THE ONE RESOLUTION AND WE ARE AT DISCUSSION, CAN WE DISCUSS ALL FOUR AT ONE TIME? I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

THE MAIN THING IS THAT THE PUBLIC IS ON NOTICE WITH ALL OF THESE ON THE AGENDA.

WITH READING THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DISCUSSION IS OPEN ON ALL FOUR ITEMS. BEFORE COUNCIL DISCUSS ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THESE FOUR ITEMS. IF SO, PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS BILL MILLER.

I'M AN ATTORNEY FROM DES MOINES, 3007 SOUTHERN HILLS DRIVE, DES MOINES.

MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 801 GRAND IN DES MOINES.

I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF ARBOR CREEK, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THE THIRD RESOLUTION THAT'S ON YOUR LIST.

I'VE PUT IT WITH ME AS WELL.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW POINTS TO URGE COUNCIL TO RESPECTFULLY OVERRULE THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF, WHICH WOULD LEAVE...

MY CLIENT AND THE PROJECT ARBOR CREEK OUT ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN IN FAVOR OF THE THREE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE PRESENTED.

AS COUNCIL IS LIKELY AWARE, THE ARBOR CREEK PROJECT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR QUITE A WHILE.

BACK IN MARCH, YOU APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN RELATION TO THAT PROJECT.

OVER TIME, ALL OF US ARE SUBJECT TO SOME CHANGE THAT THE IOWA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY HAS IMPOSED, QUITE FRANKLY.

CREATED SOME NEW ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO SHRINKING THE NUMBER OF APPROVALS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE.

AND SO WE HAVE FOUR TONIGHT THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU, AND WE'RE SEEKING TO BE ONE OF THE THREE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD WITH.

THE PROJECT WAS DEVELOPED

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WITH THE IEDA CRITERIA IN MIND, WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT PRIMARILY WE WERE GOING TO BE WORKING TOWARDS AN IEDA APPROVAL.

THEY HAVE A POINT SYSTEM THAT'S LAID OUT.

LOOKS AT IN A BROAD SENSE THE DIVERSITY OF THE HOUSING OPTIONS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED.

WE NOTE THAT OUR PROJECT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT RELATES OR INCLUDES TOWNHOMES, AN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE TO BRING DIVERSITY TO THE HOUSING STOCK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE BELIEVE FOR THE IEDA, WE THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL BLUFFS, AND SO WE VERY MUCH WANT YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THAT.

NO DISRESPECT TO THE APARTMENTS, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS WILL BE A FACTOR.

THE IEDA CONSIDERS THAT THE VALUE OF THE DIVERSITY IS A VERY HIGH THING HERE AND THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, SO THAT COUNCIL BLUFFS ISN'T LEFT LOOKING OUTSIDE LOOKING IN ON THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.

WE ALSO THINK ANOTHER FACTOR IS AN IMPORTANT ONE WITH RESPECT TO THE POSSIBLE PRECEDENT YOU'RE SETTING IS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THREE OTHER COMPETING PROJECTS THAT ARE ALL PREMISED ON CITY PROPERTY, EITHER FORMER OR CURRENT PROPERTY.

THE ARBOR CREEK PROJECT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT THE RELIANCE OF THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT.

SIMILARLY, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THE DIVERSITY OF THE PROJECT, THE SITUATION HERE, RISKS.

THE POSSIBLE MESSAGE AND THE PRECEDENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT YOU KNOW YOU MAY BE FAVORING CITY PROJECTS OVER INDEPENDENT ONES YOU MAY BE YOUR FAVORING APARTMENTS THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WE WANT TO WE BELIEVE ENCOURAGE YEAR-OVER-YEAR DIFFERENT PROJECTS COMING FORWARD AND GETTING SUPPORT SO THAT IT'S NOT SOLELY FOCUSED ON APARTMENTS OVER TIME ULTIMATELY, OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO BE LEFT ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN.

RESPECTFULLY, WE BELIEVE THE LOCKWOOD PROJECT IS ACTUALLY FURTHER BEHIND OR NOT IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WE AND THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE.

WE THINK BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE PROJECT THAT WE PROVIDE, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE APPEALING FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR IEDA AS THIS MATTER GOES ON FORWARD.

WE REALLY DO URGE YOU TO GIVE A STRONG CONSIDERATION, IN FACT SUBSTITUTE ARBOR CREEK AS ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU SUPPORT AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR IF CLINT YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ARBOR CREEK PROJECT AT THIS TIME? GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, SO IF YOU WERE GRANTED APPROVAL, WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FROM WHEN YOU CAN GET GRANT? YOU KNOW SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND WELL UH IEDA DOESN'T AWARD UNTIL SEPTEMBER SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER SO WEATHER PERMITTING SEPTEMBER YEAH STARTED IN SEPTEMBER COULD YOU EITHER OF YOU I GUESS GIVE GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A RUNDOWN ON HOW UM LIKE THE POINT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE POINT SCALE THAT THEY USE AND I OR THEY USED HAD USED PREVIOUS UNTIL FEBRUARY AT IEDA IS IS THERE ANY COULD YOU GIVE US KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF HOW THAT WORKS OR WHAT THEY USED TO LOOK AT? BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THESE, AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO LOOK AT THEM BASED ON THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WE CAN SUBMIT ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN, BUT IF IT DOESN'T MEET THEIR CRITERIA, WE'RE GOING TO WASTE A VOTE.

SO IEDA'S PRIMARY FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS SINGLE FAMILY, EITHER ATTACHED OR DETACHED, SCORE HIGHER ON THEIR SYSTEM OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEIR GRADING SYSTEM.

IF YOU'RE STARTING OUT SINGLE-FAMILY, YOUR HIGHER DENSITY UNITS DON'T SCORE AS HIGH.

NOW, WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE WORKING WITH IEDA, AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF APPLICANTS TURNING IN REQUESTS FOR HIGHER DENSITY STUFF.

AND WE FELT VERY GOOD, ALTHOUGH WE KNEW WE WEREN'T GUARANTEED, WE FELT VERY GOOD WE WOULD GET THEM CONSIDERING WE'RE THE ONLY SINGLE FAMILY.

OWNER OCCUPANT TYPE UNIT OFFERED.

AND CLINT, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT FROM PLANNING, YOU BROUGHT THAT PARTICULAR PLAN THROUGH SEVERAL TIMES, BECAUSE I KNOW I VOTED NO ON IT A FEW TIMES BECAUSE OF TOO MUCH DENSITY FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

AND THEN YOU CONTINUE TO CUT IT BACK AND CUT IT BACK UNTIL SOMETHING WAS WORKABLE.

WE'RE DOWN TO THE POINT NOW WHERE, I MEAN, THESE TAX CREDITS MEAN 30% OF OUR TIF VALUE.

SO IT'S A BIG PORTION OF OUR PROJECT.

AND I ALSO DID HEAR EARLIER THAT I HAD NEVER MENTIONED THE TAX CREDITS TO ANYBODY.

NOW, WHEN WE WERE NEGOTIATING OUR TIF AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, ALTHOUGH IT WAS

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WITH COURTNEY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED WAS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS TIF AGREEMENT THAT'S GOING TO IMPEDE US FROM GETTING WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDIT? AND THAT ANSWER WAS NO.

AND I TOLD CHRIS THAT YESTERDAY WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT, CLINT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CLINT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER? YEP.

MY NAME IS MAX.

I'M WITH KNUTSON COMPANIES, 34TH AND 1ST HOLDINGS.

I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP THE SCHEDULE.

SO WHEN THEY DO THE TAX CREDITS, THEY DO ONE YEAR FROM THE AWARD DATE, YOU HAVE TO BE SHOVELING THE GROUND.

THREE YEARS YOU HAVE TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE PROJECT.

YOU HAD A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHEN ARE THOSE REALIZED.

IT'S ON CO, AND THEN YOU GET SOMEBODY TO FRONT YOU THE MONEY, THEN TAX CREDITS COME IN, AND THEN A LOCAL PERSON, YOU KNOW, BUYS THE CREDITS.

JUST IN REGARD TO THE SCORING, THE SCORING IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

THERE IS A ONE- OR TWO-POINT SWING ON SOMETHING LIKE THE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT I THINK THE ARBOR PROJECT IS ALSO MULTIFAMILY.

REGARD TO THE DEFINITION OF THE APPLICATION.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF SCORING, A LOT OF IT'S PROJECT READINESS, SITE, PROJECT IMPACT, OR ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THE PROJECT WILL HAVE ON THE CITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF IT'S DUE WITH FINANCING, IS YOUR FINANCING IN PLACE, WHICH OUR PROJECT IS, BUT JUST WANTED TO CLEAR SOME STUFF UP.

AND IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM, I COULD ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE 34TH AND 1ST HOLDINGS? OR THE PROGRAM IN GENERAL, IF YOU HAD ANY.

YES.

ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? I FIGURED ALL FOUR OF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK, SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS GOING FIRST, SECOND, THIRD.

HI, LINDSAY BANKS WITH LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES AS WE ARE THE DEVELOPER WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES ON THIS PROJECT.

SO THE PROCESS HAS COME ABOUT OF THE CITY OBVIOUSLY HAS SPENT A LOT OF DOLLARS DEVELOPING THE EAST MANAWA PROJECT.

A RFP WAS RELEASED BY THE CITY TO WORK ON THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION OF THIS PROJECT AND THE CITY WAS WANTING SOME AFFORDABILITY.

THEY REACHED OUT TO LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES AND REQUEST THAT THEY RESPOND TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES IS DOING SOME OTHER GOOD WORK HERE IN COUNCIL BLUFFS AND WITH AN AFFORDABILITY MIND AS A BIG ASPECT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE PROJECTS.

THEY REACHED OUT TO LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT AND ASKED THAT WE HELP THEM IN THE PROJECT.

THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY WORKING ON THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT STUFF AS MUCH AS WE ARE IN LOCKWOOD.

SO.

THAT'S HOW KIND OF THIS CAME TO BE.

SO IT SAYS LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT IS LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES.

WHEN WE RESPONDED TO THE RFP IN JUNE OF 25, WE HAD THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR PROJECT.

AT THAT POINT, WE RESPONDED WITH 183 UNITS, WHICH MET THE 180-UNIT KIND OF MINIMUM THRESHOLD THAT WAS SET BY THE CITY.

OVER TIME WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE ITERATIONS KIND OF TRYING TO FINE-TUNE THE PLAN AND IN THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE OUR FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT TO 201 UNITS WHICH WE HAVE A PRE-APP, A SECOND PRE-APP, WE ALREADY HAD A FIRST PRE-APP BUT THEN WE CHANGED PLANS TO ADD DENSITY TOMORROW IS SCHEDULED.

LEWIS AND FAMILY SERVICES WANTS TO BUILD THIS PROJECT AGAIN WE AS AS A PART OF THIS.

RFP PROCESS.

IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINES THAT WERE PROVIDED OR THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE CITY, WE WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR THOSE HOUSING TAX CREDITS THIS YEAR IN THIS KIND OF CYCLE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT TIMELINE THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE 12-MONTH TIMELINE, START CONSTRUCTION BY JULY 1, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.

YES, WE ARE.

SLIGHTLY BEHIND IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMPLETELY SIGNED, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE CITY.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING GREAT MEETINGS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE SCHEDULED TOMORROW.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY ROADBLOCKS AND HURDLES THAT SHOULD PREVENT US FROM DOING THIS PROJECT SO LONG AS WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDITS AND OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, OF WHICH CHRIS AND I AND BOTH CHRIS'S, CHRIS TONGAS WITH LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES, CHRIS GIBBONS WITH THE CITY.

HAVE BEEN IN FULL KIND OF AWARENESS OF WHAT'S BEEN

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GOING ON.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LOCKWOOD DEVELOPMENT? ANY VERSION OF THIS? YOU MENTIONED YOU NEED THIS IN ORDER TO MEET CITY TIMELINES THAT WE SET OUT.

WOULD IT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PROJECT? BECAUSE I IMAGINE WE SET THOSE TIMELINES PRIOR TO US KNOWING HOW.

THIS WAS HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL.

WOULD IT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PROJECT IF THE CITY WERE TO, IF WE WERE TO MAKE CHANGES TO OUR OWN TIMELINES TO ACCOUNT TO MAKE THAT WORK? WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THE PROCESS VERSUS WHERE SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS IN THE PROCESS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WATCHED THE FIRST SIDE OF THINGS.

MY THOUGHT WAS, I WANT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS TO GO, BUT COULD WE DO THIS IN A MANNER WHERE WE'VE GOT TO PUT THESE IN NOW AND THEN 10 MONTHS FROM NOW, READY TO ROLL? AGAIN, I KNOW WE HAD TIMELINES THAT WE SAID AS WE PUT AN RFP OUT, BUT AGAIN, THE RULES HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, I GUESS? HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT YOU? TOTALLY FAIR QUESTION.

I THINK OUR CONCERN WOULD BE THAT, FIRST, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY MARKET CONDITIONS COULD COMPLETELY CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

THAT'S ALWAYS A RISK.

BUT SECOND TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT SOME KIND OF.

I HATE TO USE THE WORD GUARANTEE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A, THERE'S NO SUCH THING, BUT LET'S JUST CALL IT SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ASSURED SPOT IN THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING TAX CREDIT ON THE NEXT CYCLE AND HAVE, STILL HAVE THE SPOT IN LINE ON THE LAND, YOU KNOW, THAT CITY-OWNED LAND.

YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, CAN YOU SAY, OKAY, FOR THE 2026.

2027 CYCLE, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE GUARANTEED TO BE ONE OF THOSE SPOTS.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THEN YOU'D GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT, KIND OF LIKE THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN TODAY, OF KIND OF ALREADY HAVING GIVEN AWAY A SPOT, AND THEN YOU HAVE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE.

SO THERE'S RISK BOTH DIRECTIONS.

AND TO BE 100% JUST FORTHCOMING, LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES, WHEN I SPOKE WITH CHRIS, HE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, CHRIS TONGAS WITH LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES.

HIS FIRST EMPHASIS WAS THAT WE WANT TO BE GREAT PARTNERS WITH THE CITY.

AND SO WE WOULD LOVE TO FIND MUTUALLY AGREEABLE SOLUTIONS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE WHEN EVERYTHING HAS TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT.

AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUR PROJECT AND OUR ABILITY TO GO FORWARD WITH IT BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY, THIS IS A PROJECT LUTHERAN FAMILY SERVICES.

IS EXCITED ABOUT AND WANTS TO PROCEED WITH.

IF GRANTED ON THIS CYCLE, WE WOULD HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THE SAME DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

WE WOULD BE TIED TO THIS PROJECT TO START CONSTRUCTION IN JULY OF 27. SO IN LISTENING TO YOU SPEAK, I'M GOING TO ASK A LEGAL QUESTION, SO I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY IS GOING TO JUMP TO GO.

IN THE RFP THAT WE AWARDED, WAS THERE A TIMELINE THAT IT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED? SO IF SO, I MEAN.

WE HAVE COMMITTED LEGALLY TO A TIMELINE.

OTHERWISE, WE WOULD HAVE TO START THE RFP PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN, CORRECT? IF WE, IN FACT, HAD COMMITTED TO A TIMELINE IN THE RFP, THEN YES, WE'RE BOUND TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

SINCE WE SUBMITTED IT, WE COULD ADJUST THAT TIMELINE SINCE WE ARE THE ONES THAT...

SO WE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR SOMEBODY TO COMPORT WITH A CERTAIN TIMELINE? IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY, SO THEN...

YEAH, IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE OTHER FOLKS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW IN THE FUTURE YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE TIMELINE.

SO IF THEY MADE THEIR BID BASED ON THIS FIRM TIMELINE AND THEN YOU CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC, YES.

AND I'LL JUST...

ECHO THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE I'VE GOT.

I HAPPEN TO HAVE THE RFP HERE.

WAS THAT CONSTRUCTION WITH HOUSING UNITS OCCUPANCY ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST OF 2028.

WE HAVE A 20-MONTH TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION, HENCE WHY IT WOULD START.

OH, DID I MENTION AFFORDABLE COMPONENT OF THE RFP? THERE WAS AN AFFORDABLE COMPONENT.

OF THE RFP OF WHICH LUZON FAMILY SERVICES PLANS TO COMPLY WITH.

PROBABLY 100% OF THE UNITS WILL BE 120% OF THE AMI, AND SOME PORTION OF UNITS WILL ALSO BE UP TO 80% OF THE AMI FOR RENTAL.

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ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MAYOR SHUDAK, IS THIS TIME SENSITIVE, THESE RESOLUTIONS TODAY? CHRIS.

DIDN'T STATE THAT IT WAS TIME-SENSITIVE HOWEVER THEY HAVE TO BE AWARDED AND APPROVED BY US SO THEY CAN GO TO THE STATE.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE IN BY JUNE, RIGHT? JUNE 1 I BELIEVE.

WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TABLE FOR ONE MEETING IF NEEDED.

YEAH, I BELIEVE YEAH, JUNE JUNE 1 IS THE DEADLINE FOR FOR THE APPLICATION.

YEAH, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE OUR FOURTH NOPE, JUST CAME HERE TO HANG OUT.

WELL, SOMETIMES HE DOES.

JOHN JURKOVICH, 535 WEST BROADWAY SUITE 100, ON BEHALF OF, HERE ON BEHALF OF JILL, JASON JAMES' PROJECT ON IVY DRIVE.

MUCH NEEDED PROJECT, JASON'S GONNA DO 112 UNITS, 80, 70 UNITS WILL BE ONE BEDROOM, 36 TWO BEDROOMS, AND SIX THREE BEDROOMS. FOR THE PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BE MAINLY 80% FOR SENIORS LIVING AS MUCH NEEDED.

WE NEED THESE TAX CREDITS TO KEEP THE RENT DOWN.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO AFFORDABLE FOR SENIOR LIVING, MAKE THE RENT AS GOOD AS WE CAN.

WE'RE REALLY TUNED INTO THIS.

WE OWNED UP AROUND LYLE WESTERN AND SOLD THE PROPERTY TO EMANUEL.

THEY DID 55 AND OVER.

THEN JASON AND I DEVELOPED 36 TOWNHOMES UP THERE.

AND WE RENTED 22 OF THEM, WE KEPT THEM, AND THEN SOLD 14.

BUT THIS IS THE DEMAND, YOU GUYS.

THE RENTAL MARKET HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

ELDERLY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ARE REALLY LOOKING TO RENT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET WHERE IT'S AFFORDABLE, WHERE YOU HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND GOT A FIXED INCOME WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD THE RENT.

AND EACH FLOOR IS GOING TO HAVE A COMMON AREA, A GATHERING ROOM.

IT'S REALLY A NICE PROJECT AND I THINK THERE'S A TWO OR THREE YEAR WAITING LIST ON EMANUEL AND WE CAN'T GET THEM TO BUILD ANYMORE OUT THERE.

I'M LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE SITES TOO FOR THEM BUT IT'S JUST IT'S REALLY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR SENIORS FINALLY HAVE YOU KNOW IF THEY WANT TO GIVE UP THE HOME THEY WANT A NICE PLACE TO LIVE AND BE AROUND PEOPLE AND GOOD AMENITIES AND THIS IS A IT'S A GREAT PROJECT FOR IT.

WE KIND OF GO AFTER MARKETS THAT OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T DOING, LIKE TOWNHOMES AND EVERYONE ELSE BUILDING HOMES AND SENIORS IN A MUCH-NEEDED AREA, OUR SENIOR POPULATION.

SO IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT, AND WE NEED THE CREDITS.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW ALL THE PARTIES IN THE ROOM ARE ALL GREAT PEOPLE.

THEY ARE.

WHAT DO I SAY? IT'S UNFORTUNATE.

STATE COMES IN AND CHANGES THE RULES IN THE LAST MOMENT AND READY TO GO BREAK GROUND SEPTEMBER ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN OR COMMENTS I WOULD ECHO WHAT JOE SAID.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME, YEAH, I ALMOST WOULD ASK THE SAME QUESTION.

WOULD IT BE DETRIMENTAL FOR YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM? LIKE I HAD ASKED LOCKWOOD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE AN RFP ON YOURS, I GUESS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE NECESSARILY, BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY DETRIMENTAL TIMELINE-WISE TO 10 MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD? OTHER THAN JUST A DELAY.

JOHN, FOR...

FOR JILLA. FOR JILLA.

CORRECT.

I ASKED CHRIS GIBBONS IF THEY COULD BE CONTINUED ONE MEETING, AND HE SAID YES.

YEAH, WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MEETING.

LEGAL, DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE? YES, IT WOULD.

I FIGURED AS MUCH.

OKAY.

I MOVE TO TABLE FOR ONE MEETING TO THE, WHAT WAS THAT, MAY 4TH? MAY 4TH.

SO YOU WANT RESOLUTIONS 26-157, 26-158, 26-159, AND 26-160 CONTINUED TO MAY 4TH.

PLEASE.

YES, I'LL SECOND.

IS THERE A MOTION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AGAIN, I WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT JOE SAID EARLIER AND WHAT THE WHOLE COUNCIL THINKS.

I DO NOT ENVY YOU GUYS ON THIS VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE FOUR AMAZING PROJECTS.

I WANT ALL THE PROJECTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS, TO JOE'S

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POINT EARLIER, THE FACT THAT DES MOINES CAME IN AND MADE THIS CHANGE, IT MAKES ME SCARED ABOUT WHAT CHANGES POTENTIALLY ARE STILL TO COME.

YEAH.

WELL, EFFECTIVELY, RETROACTIVELY, WE ALREADY HAD ONE IN.

YEAH.

LIKE THEY SNUCK THROUGH BEFORE EVEN HAVING TO COME THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE GAUNTLET HERE.

FOR SURE.

AGAIN, AS I SAID ALL DAY, THAT'S A GOOD PROJECT, TOO.

THEY'RE ALL GOOD PROJECTS.

THEY'RE ALL VERY GOOD PROJECTS.

EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WORKS HARD TO GET THESE TO ALL COME TO FRUITION, AND NOW WE GET KICKED IN THE TEETH.

YES, THAT'S NOT THE WORD I WOULD USE.

I'M BEING DIPLOMATIC.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS UNTIL THE MAY 4TH? AYE.

OPPOSED? AND JOE, DO YOU WITHDRAW YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE? OH, SHOOT.

YES, THAT'S FINE.

[8.G) Resolution 26-161 Resolution declaring the intent of the City to accept a proposal received in accordance with the requests for proposals and to enter into a Purchase, Sale, and Development Agreement based on the selected proposal.]

YOU'RE OUT OF TIME, JOE.

THANK YOU.

I'LL SEE YOU ON THE 4TH.

SORRY, GUYS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE TO RESOLUTION 26.

A RESOLUTION DECLARING THE INTENT OF THE CITY TO ACCEPT A PROPOSAL RECEIVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE, SALE, AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BASED ON A SELECTED PROPOSAL.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION?

[8.H) Resolution 26-162 Resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute the Orders accepting the Acknowledgment/Settlement Agreements from Casey's, 510 23rd Avenue, Council Bluffs, IA 51501; I-80 Liquor, 2411 S. 24th Street, Ste. 1, Council Bluffs, IA 51501 and VIP Smoke Shop, 305 E. Broadway, Council Bluffs, IA 51503 for violation of the State's tobacco laws. ]

ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WANT TO COMMENT ON IT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26162, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE ORDERS ACCEPTING THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS FROM CASEY'S, I-80 LIQUOR, BIP SMOKE SHOP, AND FOR VIOLATION OF THE STATE'S TOBACCO LAWS.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT'S CASEY'S ON 510-23RD AVE.

THERE'S A FEW OF THEM IN TOWN, SO I JUST WANT TO CALL THAT OUT.

[8.I) Resolution 26-153 Resolution authorizing the creation and approval of the Homeless Services Coordinator position within the Mayors Office ]

THERE ARE SIX, I THINK.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

RESOLUTION 26-163, EVEN THOUGH THE AGENDA SAYS 153, THE CORRECT NUMBER IS 163.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CREATION AND APPROVAL OF A HOMELESS SERVICES COORDINATOR POSITION WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

IS THIS A...

THIS IS JUST A ONE-TIME DEAL, ISN'T IT? YEAH.

OH, SHOOT.

OKAY.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REASSESS THE PAY GRADE, HONESTLY.

OKAY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT SUCH A THING, I GUESS.

BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT, AND AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO KIND OF GET TOGETHER IN BETWEEN.

UM.

WE CAN APPROVE.

WOULD IT BE SOMETHING WE CAN...

MIMI, IS IT TRUE THAT THEY APPROVED TO CREATE THE POSITION AND THEN THE PAY, IF IT WANTED TO BE CHANGED, WOULDN'T NEED TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL, CORRECT? TONY, STEP OUT.

FUNNY THEN.

I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THAT ISSUE, BUT TONY'S THE EXPERT ON THE JOB CREATION PIECE.

ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE YOU, JODY.

I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT YOU'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THESE.

TONY, WE HAVE A QUESTION.

SEE IF IT'S...

26163, TONY, THE...

HOMELESS SERVICE COORDINATOR.

HOMELESS COORDINATOR.

YES.

SO THE COUNCIL'S JOB IS TO APPROVE THE CREATION OF THE POSITION.

THE PAY FOR THE POSITION IS THE MAYOR'S BUCKET.

OKAY.

SO THE MAYOR IS MAKING THE REQUEST.

CORRECT.

THE...

CREATION OF THE POSITION GENERALLY AND THE GENERAL INTENT OR DUTIES OF IT ARE FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COMPENSATION IS ALSO FOR THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE BECAUSE IT AMOUNTS TO SPENDING AND THAT AUTHORITY IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO THE COUNCIL.

NOW IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO GENERALLY APPROVE IT THEN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH CIVIL SERVICE WHERE CIVIL SERVICE THEN HAS TO PROVIDE THE EXACT SPECIFICS OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR CIVIL SERVICE PURPOSES.

THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH, IDENTIFY ANY, YOU KNOW, CIVIL SERVICE REQUIRES TESTING, SO THEY HAVE TO APPROVE THE TESTING PROCESS AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND THEN ONCE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT, THEY THEN HAVE TO CERTIFY A LIST OF ALL APPLICANTS WHO MET THE CRITERIA PAST THE CIVIL SERVICE EXAMINATION FOR THE POSITION.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WITH THAT CERTIFIED LIST, THEN THE MAYOR MAKES A SELECTION, DOES THE APPOINTMENT, WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.

AND FOR MY PORTION, THERE WOULD BE AN INTERVIEW PANEL, INCLUDING SOME

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OF THE EXPERTS AROUND THE AREA, AND THEY WOULD RECOMMEND TO ME THE TOP TWO CANDIDATES FOR ME THEN TO DO THE FINAL INTERVIEW FOR.

YEAH, SO YOU CAN EITHER DO INTERVIEWS AS PART OF THE SCORD PROCESS BEFORE CIVIL SERVICE.

OR AFTER, BUT ONCE THE LIST IS CERTIFIED, IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT DURING THE CIVIL SERVICE PROCESS, THEN IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU AT THAT POINT HOW YOU DECIDE WHO FROM THE LIST YOU TAKE.

YEAH.

SO IF WE APPROVED RESOLUTION 163 TONIGHT...

AS IT SITS.

AS IT SITS.

IT STAYS HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

RIGHT.

WOULD, IF THAT GOT APPROVED TO CREATE THE POSITION, THERE WOULDN'T BE THEN A SEPARATE VOTE BY US LATER TO...

ON THE SALARY IF WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PAY SCALE FOR THAT.

IT'S EITHER ALL OR NOTHING.

WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE.

THE SALARY WAS IN THE BUDGET, BUT YOU COULD DO A MOTION TO AMEND TO REVIEW THE SALARY.

SO I THINK THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THE CIVIL SERVICE.

IF IT WEREN'T A CIVIL SERVICE POSITION, IF, LET'S SAY, JILL WANTED TO, SHE COULD CHANGE THE SALARY OF SOMEBODY WITHOUT COUNSEL ON A POSITION THAT'S ALREADY CREATED.

NO.

NO? RIGHT, SO EITHER WAY, I DON'T HAVE A SALARY THAT I, LIKE, I DON'T HAVE A TARGET IN MIND.

YEAH, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MAYOR.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT BRENDA DID DO A SALARY, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY CALL IT.

ANALYSIS.

YEAH, ESSENTIALLY AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT A POSITION SHOULD BE PAID BEFORE IT WENT OVER.

AND I THINK JAKE WAS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY REVIEWED THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE.

JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO LEGAL ISSUES WITH IT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A LOT OF THE CRITERIA FOR THE JOB POSITION AT THE TOP, WHICH IS, IS IT CIVIL SERVICE ELIGIBLE? IS IT, WHAT'S THE PAY GRADE? WHAT'S THE STATUS? IS IT A UNION POSITION? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BRENDA CAME UP WITH ALL OF THAT.

IOWA WEST ALSO REVIEWED IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY WERE SEEING FROM A NATIONWIDE PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.

SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PAYING THE VAST MAJORITY FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST TWO YEARS.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AGAIN, I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH IT'S A I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST PULLING A THING OUT OF THE HAT AT THIS POINT, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU FROM A CIVIL SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, YOU WOULD LOOK AT YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO LOOK TO SEE IS THE EXPERIENCE AND THE QUALIFICATIONS, ARE THEY IN LINE WITH THE SALARY EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT? IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE JOB WAS TO, I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY THAT DOES WORK, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE JOB WAS TO CHASE A SQUIRREL, THAT DOESN'T REALLY TAKE ANY QUALIFICATION.

YOU EVER TRIED TO CATCH A SQUIRREL? WELL, I'M NOT, I DIDN'T SAY YOU HAD TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT IT.

YOU SAID TO CHASE A SQUIRREL.

RIGHT, AND THERE'S NO QUALIFICATION, $100,000 WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT IF YOU HAD TO GO TO SCHOOL.

SCHOOL TO LEARN HOW TO DO IT AND CORRECT NO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I HAD TO HAVE SPECIALIZED EXPERIENCE I MEAN THAT'S JUST GENERALLY I MEAN NOT FOR THIS POSITION BUT ANY POSITION HOW CIVIL SERVICE LOOKS AT IT YEAH AND BEFORE WE GO TOO MUCH FURTHER I KIND OF WANT TO JUST RECAP BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IF THEY'RE WATCHING AT HOME OR THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS THIS IS A NEW POSITION A NEW STAFF POSITION TO THE CITY IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS NOT IN ADDITION TO THE HOP COORDINATOR THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, THIS WOULD BE A NEW POSITION THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE MAYOR.

AND FUNDING WOULD BE SPLIT WITH SOME IOWA WEST FUNDING FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO.

BUT BENEFITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE COMING FROM THE CITY WHERE WE WOULD PAY FOR VACATION DAYS.

THEY ARE AN IOWA WEST EMPLOYEE UNTIL THEY COME UNDER THE.

OH, NO, SORRY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE BENEFITS WOULD BE US.

IOWA WEST IS PAYING 75% OF ITS SALARY FOR THE FIRST YEAR, 50% FOR THE SECOND YEAR, AND 25% FOR THE THIRD YEAR.

BENEFITS WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE CITY.

THIS IS A NEW POSITION.

HOWEVER, I HAVE REMOVED THE POSITION OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF.

AND SO THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT IS LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS CHIEF OF STAFF'S AND WAS IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED LAST MONTH.

SO, AGAIN, WE KIND OF ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT'S THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE HEARING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

AND NOW WE'RE AT THAT POINT OF, OKAY, ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALLOWING THIS NEW POSITION OR CREATING THIS NEW POSITION? AND WE DID HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT STUDY SESSION.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THAT

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AS WELL.

I'LL BE HONEST, I HAVE A LOT OF.

CONSTERNATION WITH THIS AS WELL AND JOE YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE PAY GRADE IT'S AN AWFULLY HIGH PAY GRADE I THINK FOR WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH I HEAR WHAT THE MAYOR SAYS WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE ALLOCATED MONEY MY TAKE IS THAT MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER USE OF THOSE FUNDS WE TALKED ABOUT WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ROLE AND I KEEP GOING BACK TO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE NONPROFITS TAKE MORE OF A LEAD ON THAT AND HAVE THEM BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE JUST GOT THROUGH TELLING TAXPAYERS, CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE HELP.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO.

BUT NOW WE WOULD HAVE ADDED TWO STAFF POSITIONS AFTER WE SAID THAT. AND THAT'S A REALLY TOUGH CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH PEOPLE TO SAY, SORRY, COULDN'T HELP YOU OUT MORE. BUT BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OVER $200,000 OR A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS ON ALL THE BENEFITS ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO, AGAIN. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I HAVE A LOT OF CONSTERNATION WITH THAT. IN MY OWN HEART, I'M NOT SURE. I'M A LITTLE LIKE STEVE. I'M NOT SURE THIS IS GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

IS THIS GOING TO? MAYBE IT HELPS, MAYBE NOT. BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT FIXES THE PROBLEM. IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON. TO ME, IT SEEMS TO BE A BETTER FIT ON THE NONPROFIT SIDE RATHER THAN ON THE CITY SIDE. AND I THINK THE CITY'S MONEY CAN BE SPENT BETTER. IN OTHER SPOTS THAN WITH THIS.

BUT JUST MY OWN TAKE, I'M A NO VOTE ON THAT IF WE GET TO THAT POINT. BUT I'LL LET YOU GUYS DISCUSS WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. WELL, WE'RE KIND OF INTO DISCUSSION, I GUESS.

WE HAVE A MOTION, RIGHT? I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT...

SO WE NEED A MOTION THEN SO WE CAN CONTINUE. YEAH. I WOULD MOTION TO TABLE. SECOND. AND THE REASON I ASK IS I'D LIKE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, AND I DON'T WANT IT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE NOW I'VE GOT TWO SECONDS TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE REPORTS THAT, WHAT'S HER NAME, SENT OVER TO US. I DO THINK THAT, I MEAN, I'VE SAT IN ON DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND DIFFERENT GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS OVER THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN HERE.

HAVING SOMEONE TO MAYBE GENERAL SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND GET THINGS IN LINE COULD BE BENEFICIAL. I COULD SEE THAT. I JUST, DO THEY NEED TO BE A DEPARTMENT HEAD? I DON'T KNOW.

AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE DOUG, LAST TIME YOU ASKED TO SEE THE SAME FOR THE LEGAL PERSON. SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BUSINESS PLAN BY ANY MEANS. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT INFO. WHAT DATE ARE YOU TABLING THIS TO? JUST THE NEXT MEETING. I MEAN, IF WE'D HAVE HAD MORE TIME IN BETWEEN, WHICH IS ALSO MY FAULT, PARTIALLY, BECAUSE I SPEAK A LOT. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT, JOE. SO, YEAH, IF WE NEED TO CONTINUE, I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE

[9.A) Liquor License Renewals1. Buffalo Wild Wings, 3701 Metro Dr. Ste. 1002. Kikkers, 1503 Ave. C3. T'Z, 128 W. Broadway4. The B Side Bar, 162 W. Broadway]

IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION

[9.B) Retail Tobacco Permit - Renewals (7)]

CARRIES TO TABLE THIS TO MAY 4TH. APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS AND CANCELLATIONS.

WE HAVE LIQUOR LICENSES 9A, 1-4, AND 9B. I'M GOING TO LEAVE C SEPARATE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ANY

[9.C) Noise Variance Request - Live music May 9, 2026, 8:00 pm - 1:00 am at 1734 Avenue F]

DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THEN WE HAVE 9C, THE NOISE VARIANCE REQUEST.

IN THEIR APPLICATION, IT SAID... WAIT, HOLD TIGHT.

WE NEED A... WELL, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION, I GUESS, WITH AN AMENDMENT TO BACK TO MIDNIGHT. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. NOW YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSION. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IN THEIR APPLICATION, IT SAYS MAYBE MIDNIGHT, 1 O'CLOCK. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT MY FEAR IS THAT WE... THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS DOUG, TO DOUG'S POINT EARLIER TODAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE NO REAL NOTIFICATION. I HOPE THAT THEY ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND HAVE SPOKEN WITH ALL THE PARTIES, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING THEM. WE JUST GOT TO KIND OF PICK A TIME AT A CERTAIN POINT, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE O'CLOCK IS GETTING TO BE PRETTY LATE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WITH THE ADJUSTED TIME? AYE.

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OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ANY OTHER CITY COUNCIL ACTION ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED? ANY OTHER CITY BUSINESS? SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.